Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
Yeah, the Whedonesquers are having a cow.
We're having a cow? Heh. It's civil war over at the official movie site forums. Not pleasant at all.
Serenity was a noble effort, Joss and the cast did their best, so did the fans. And it got critically acclaimed as well. Just wasn't to be at the box office, alas.
Saying that, the international market could kick off big style. Probably.
I'm a little confused. It's a genre film and it was cheap to make. I didn't think they expected huge BO returns--just moderate--am I right? It's not a $100 million dollar movie.
And it's the entire industry (if we're talking movie going-revenue) that's in the shitter right now so I don't see wherefore the huge moans and groans about how poorly the film is doing money-wise.
The film is going to more than recoup the costs it took to make it AND it got critical acclaim. I hate to see people moaning its early death.
Well, the rumor had been that Universal wanted it to make $15M its opening weekend, which it didn't. The other rumor was that it needed $80M (worldwide, I believe) to get a sequel greenlit. So I think people are disappointed that there haven't been huge numbers that would make sequels a foregone conclusion.
Saw Serenity and enjoyed it muchly.
What really remained with me were the little directorial flourishes that I think mark Whedon for greatness. Like the push-in on River putting a gun to her head when she suggests committing suicide to Simon. Or the camera slowly coming into focus on Zoe's face, after Jayne uses Serenity Valley to make a point about Mal's leadership skills.
Also, I wasn't down with the explanation for the Reavers 'cause it guts the thematic content of 'Bushwacked' and that was the part of the episode I admired most.
Well, that makes sense. But I wasn't planting my hopes on a sequel. It would have been nice, sure. I just think that after spending six months reading about how people AREN'T going to the theatre anymore and the reasons behind it and the horrible BO revenues, I'm not surprised.
But then I look and see that someone made DOOM into a film starring THE ROCK and go back to thinking the world is an unjust place.
I think a lot of fans wanted to believe it was going to be a huge blockbuster success that would spawn several sequels and/or a return to the small screen.
As for all the press about this crisis at the box office, John August had a very interesting entry about the “slump.”
As for all the press about this crisis at the box office, John August had a very interesting entry about the “slump.”
I love this part:
Journalist: “Would you say the slump was caused because the movies were awful?”
Executive: “Umm, maybe. I guess.”
Journalist: “No, seriously. Say it.”
I didn't think that Serenity sucked. I think that it might not have a broad enough appeal to reach the numbers that it needs to be considered a blockbuster event. And that's too bad.
I know! That was hilarious because I could picture it.
I think that it might not have a broad enough appeal to reach the numbers that it needs to be considered a blockbuster event.
Despite the success of the Star Wars and Star Trek franchises, science fiction movies are actually pretty rarely blockbusters.
I just came from watching Serenity. It broke me.
goddamn you to hell, Joss Whedon!
I am NOT getting over this.