Okay, um, I'm lost. Uh, I'm angry, and I'm armed, so if you two have something that you need to work out --

Mal ,'War Stories'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Cashmere - Oct 08, 2005 2:32:23 pm PDT #6091 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I'm a little confused. It's a genre film and it was cheap to make. I didn't think they expected huge BO returns--just moderate--am I right? It's not a $100 million dollar movie.

And it's the entire industry (if we're talking movie going-revenue) that's in the shitter right now so I don't see wherefore the huge moans and groans about how poorly the film is doing money-wise.

The film is going to more than recoup the costs it took to make it AND it got critical acclaim. I hate to see people moaning its early death.


Kristen - Oct 08, 2005 2:44:06 pm PDT #6092 of 10001

Well, the rumor had been that Universal wanted it to make $15M its opening weekend, which it didn't. The other rumor was that it needed $80M (worldwide, I believe) to get a sequel greenlit. So I think people are disappointed that there haven't been huge numbers that would make sequels a foregone conclusion.


IAmNotReallyASpring - Oct 08, 2005 2:50:01 pm PDT #6093 of 10001
I think Freddy Quimby should walk out of here a free hotel

Saw Serenity and enjoyed it muchly.

What really remained with me were the little directorial flourishes that I think mark Whedon for greatness. Like the push-in on River putting a gun to her head when she suggests committing suicide to Simon. Or the camera slowly coming into focus on Zoe's face, after Jayne uses Serenity Valley to make a point about Mal's leadership skills.

Also, I wasn't down with the explanation for the Reavers 'cause it guts the thematic content of 'Bushwacked' and that was the part of the episode I admired most.


Cashmere - Oct 08, 2005 2:51:17 pm PDT #6094 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Well, that makes sense. But I wasn't planting my hopes on a sequel. It would have been nice, sure. I just think that after spending six months reading about how people AREN'T going to the theatre anymore and the reasons behind it and the horrible BO revenues, I'm not surprised.

But then I look and see that someone made DOOM into a film starring THE ROCK and go back to thinking the world is an unjust place.


Kristen - Oct 08, 2005 2:58:49 pm PDT #6095 of 10001

I think a lot of fans wanted to believe it was going to be a huge blockbuster success that would spawn several sequels and/or a return to the small screen.

As for all the press about this crisis at the box office, John August had a very interesting entry about the “slump.”


Cashmere - Oct 08, 2005 3:07:06 pm PDT #6096 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

As for all the press about this crisis at the box office, John August had a very interesting entry about the “slump.”

I love this part:

Journalist: “Would you say the slump was caused because the movies were awful?”

Executive: “Umm, maybe. I guess.”

Journalist: “No, seriously. Say it.”

I didn't think that Serenity sucked. I think that it might not have a broad enough appeal to reach the numbers that it needs to be considered a blockbuster event. And that's too bad.


Kristen - Oct 08, 2005 3:09:21 pm PDT #6097 of 10001

I know! That was hilarious because I could picture it.


Sean K - Oct 08, 2005 3:15:38 pm PDT #6098 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I think that it might not have a broad enough appeal to reach the numbers that it needs to be considered a blockbuster event.

Despite the success of the Star Wars and Star Trek franchises, science fiction movies are actually pretty rarely blockbusters.


quester - Oct 08, 2005 3:18:14 pm PDT #6099 of 10001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I just came from watching Serenity. It broke me.

goddamn you to hell, Joss Whedon!

I am NOT getting over this.


Tim Minear - Oct 08, 2005 4:12:54 pm PDT #6100 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

Also, I wasn't down with the explanation for the Reavers 'cause it guts the thematic content of 'Bushwacked' and that was the part of the episode I admired most.

By that you mean the directing, right?