Zoe: What's that, sir? Mal: Freedom, is what. Zoe: No, I meant what's that? Mal: Oh. Yeah. Just step around it. I think something must've been living in here.

'Out Of Gas'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Cashmere - Aug 14, 2005 2:20:40 am PDT #4229 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I didn't want a Firefly movie. I wanted to see Firefly on my television set EVERY week. I wanted lots and lots of good stories--stories that I knew Joss could give us.

As thrilled as I am with the movie, every time I hear the theme song on SciFi on Friday nights, my anger kindles anew.

I don't see Serenity as a win for fans. I see it as a nice consolation for Joss that we just happen to be able to enjoy.


I am Jack's username - Aug 14, 2005 4:48:31 am PDT #4230 of 10001
I'll try to stay away from your wheaties.

Yay for

Whedon hopes Serenity makes money so he can do a trilogy, even see it return to TV.

from a 2005-08-14 Sunday Times article on Serenity, but what is this intelligent Spider-Man he speaks of?

Whedon is relieved. "There have been some disasters out there this year," he says. "But there is still some room for more intelligent entertainment. Batman and Spider-Man have proved that."

Edit: the indent that adds line breaks is not the real indent.


Kiba Rika - Aug 14, 2005 7:10:22 am PDT #4231 of 10001
I may have to seize the cat.

My crabbiness on the subject, I realize, is probably annoying and spoiling the party. I've found some of the marketing for the flick to be somewhat exploitive of fans and the lengths they'll go through to preserve the thing they love. Some lameass person charged with selling a lameass video game recently called upon the fans to write letters saying they wanted Verizon to buy their lameass game, when Verizon passed.

Yeah, I didn't mess with that. I actually have ideas about what I would want a Firefly/Serenity game to look like, and I think the only way I would support such a project would be if it were a game I actually wanted to play. You're right, everyone is exploiting the fans here. I think, and this makes me a bit sad, that I have grown an almost Darwinian attitude - these fans seem to enjoy being exploited (always have, really), and while that makes the people exploiting them bad and assholes, it doesn't really feel like it's worth the energy to get angry about. But I'm all about conserving energy, lately. A couple years ago I would've been totally pissed off.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 14, 2005 7:43:18 am PDT #4232 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think that possibly one big factor I've not seen mentioned before is that Joss was able to make the feature film quality pilot "Serenity" for just over $10 million. While that's Godzilla sized for a TV pilot, it's normally the kind of money that gets you bunches of second tier WB teen stars being chased through the woods by someone with a mask and sharpened kitchen untensils on the big screen. War of the Worlds probably spent more on lighting Cruise favorably so he wouldn't frighten Dakota Fanning.


Narrator - Aug 14, 2005 8:54:09 am PDT #4233 of 10001
The evil is this way?

I didn't want a Firefly movie. I wanted to see Firefly on my television set EVERY week. I wanted lots and lots of good stories--stories that I knew Joss could give us.

As thrilled as I am with the movie, every time I hear the theme song on SciFi on Friday nights, my anger kindles anew.

I don't see Serenity as a win for fans. I see it as a nice consolation for Joss that we just happen to be able to enjoy.

WROD.


Jars - Aug 14, 2005 9:03:03 am PDT #4234 of 10001

It's still the best consolation prize ever. I assume. I have no evidence to back that up. I'll tell you when I actually see the movie.


Una - Aug 14, 2005 1:47:33 pm PDT #4235 of 10001
when i die, please bake my ashes into a brick and use me to hit fascists.

What Narrator said.


brenda m - Aug 14, 2005 2:00:38 pm PDT #4236 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I don't see Serenity as a win for fans. I see it as a nice consolation for Joss that we just happen to be able to enjoy.

Ok, but the question wasn't Firefly on tv or a movie. Firefly as a series was dead, done, over. So yeah, I do appreciate having another visit to this 'verse.


Cashmere - Aug 14, 2005 2:32:30 pm PDT #4237 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Ok, but the question wasn't Firefly on tv or a movie. Firefly as a series was dead, done, over. So yeah, I do appreciate having another visit to this 'verse.

Don't get me wrong, I'm THRILLED at the prospect of the movie, considering that the series was, in fact, dead when it came about. But if the movie is great (and I think it will be), I'm just going to get more angry because of what we know could have been.

It makes it all the more painful.

t /bitter

who'm I kidding--that tag never closes here.


DavidS - Aug 14, 2005 2:43:22 pm PDT #4238 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Speaking of spending extra time in the Firefly 'verse, I finally tracked down a bunch of issue #2 of the comic. I had a choice between the Book, Kaylee and Zoe covers and opted for Zoe, though I thought the Kaylee actually looked better.