I made sure this was included in our wedding ceremony. *g*
Us too.
Giles, if you would like to get by in American society, then you are going to have to follow our traditions. You're the patriarch. You have to host the festivities, or it's all meaningless.
Buffy ,'Sleeper'
Spike's Bitches 21 Gunn Salute
[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.
DavidS - Feb 09, 2005 9:06:12 am PST #9983 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Steph L. - Feb 09, 2005 9:06:55 am PST #9984 of 10002
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated
ChiKat, he reminds me of someone, and I can't think of who.
-t - Feb 09, 2005 9:07:35 am PST #9985 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Aren't we cute??
Oh, you most certainly are.
Beverly - Feb 09, 2005 9:08:00 am PST #9986 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
Surgery and recovery-ma for Vortex's godson.
Susan W. - Feb 09, 2005 9:09:18 am PST #9987 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights
Very cute, ChiKat.
P.M. Marc - Feb 09, 2005 9:09:39 am PST #9988 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Chikat, SO CUTE! I love that picture.
I tend to just not have regrets, period, because everything that I've done or experienced, good or bad, has lead me to a specific place, and I'm kind of happy with that place.
Even small things aren't worth regretting. Like, I'd regret buying this house instead of house X, except that I have no idea if the series of events that lead to me being involved in online fandom would have happened if I hadn't been specifically here, and no idea if I'd be having the kid I'm having in ten and a half weeks if the location had shifted.
I'm well aware that many of my choices have been not-so-smart, but they've made me who I am today.
ChiKat - Feb 09, 2005 9:10:46 am PST #9989 of 10002
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?
Thanks, y'all!
Jen reminds me of SA, a little.
Yes! Quite a lot in real life, actually.
And Matt has a William H. Macy thing going on.
Lil' bit, yep. He's a doll, too. And, he told me that I had a great ass, so I'm in love with him.
ChiKat - Feb 09, 2005 9:11:54 am PST #9990 of 10002
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?
Oh! And Teppy? You can't see in the picture. But he (the BF) has big hands. Nice, solid, big hands. Yum....
DavidS - Feb 09, 2005 9:12:54 am PST #9991 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
But what if it isn't about "deprivation and denial and guilt" to the people involved? What if they see chastity as a rational choice (which it can be) and one their god approves of (which it also is, though their god may not = my god or your god or The God)?
Like you, I have a problem with people being made to feel dirty for being human. But the choice to only have sex in marriage, if freely entered into, is as valid as the choice to sleep with a different person every day for 75 years, or anything in-between.
I'm overstating my case somewhat. Obviously, I respect Nilly's choices in the matter. Most people aren't Nilly, though. And I don't think it's driven out of that kind of thoughtful spirituality, but social pressure and shame. Theoretically? Yes, you're right. Obviously people differe and can make that kind of choice. Historically, in real terms? It's hateful. Part of the long tradition of Christian shame about the body and sex.
And as noted, it's not in the Old Testament and I don't think it's in the Gospels. I blame Paul.
::waits for wife to rush in to defend Paul::
beathen - Feb 09, 2005 9:14:50 am PST #9992 of 10002
Sure I went over to the Dark Side, but just to pick up a few things.
Like you, I have a problem with people being made to feel dirty for being human. But the choice to only have sex in marriage, if freely entered into, is as valid as the choice to sleep with a different person every day for 75 years, or anything in-between.
I agree with this. I am very conservative on this topic but just because that's true doesn't mean I feel "sheltered" or welcome others' pity. I will not condemn others for the choices they make even if I don't agree, but I do not appreciate people telling me I should, for example, sleep with a couple people to find out what I like and that I'll be better for it. (This is not directed at anyone, but just a general me vs. world statement.) I'm better off following my heart and mind for what's best for me. By doing this I will hopefully avoid some guilt just because someone else "said". If my stance differs from someone else's view, so be it, just don't judge me because of it.