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beathen - Feb 09, 2005 9:14:50 am PST #9992 of 10002
Sure I went over to the Dark Side, but just to pick up a few things.

Like you, I have a problem with people being made to feel dirty for being human. But the choice to only have sex in marriage, if freely entered into, is as valid as the choice to sleep with a different person every day for 75 years, or anything in-between.

I agree with this. I am very conservative on this topic but just because that's true doesn't mean I feel "sheltered" or welcome others' pity. I will not condemn others for the choices they make even if I don't agree, but I do not appreciate people telling me I should, for example, sleep with a couple people to find out what I like and that I'll be better for it. (This is not directed at anyone, but just a general me vs. world statement.) I'm better off following my heart and mind for what's best for me. By doing this I will hopefully avoid some guilt just because someone else "said". If my stance differs from someone else's view, so be it, just don't judge me because of it.

Sean K - Feb 09, 2005 9:15:20 am PST #9993 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

::waits for wife to rush in to defend Paul::

JZ has a defense for Paul???


This I gotta hear.

Steph L. - Feb 09, 2005 9:16:23 am PST #9994 of 10002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Song of Solomon is in the Bible too, dangit

I made sure this was included in our wedding ceremony. *g*

Song of Solomon has a line I have always wanted my Twoo Wuv to say to me: "You have stolen my heart, my sister, my bride; you have stolen my heart with one glance of your eyes, with one jewel of your necklace."

Yes, I am a cheesy sap.

(And the line from Song of Solomon [NIV] that has always made me laugh: "Your teeth are like a flock of sheep just shorn." WTF?)

beth b - Feb 09, 2005 9:16:57 am PST #9995 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I tend to just not have regrets, period, because everything that I've done or experienced, good or bad, has lead me to a specific place, and I'm kind of happy with that place.

I'm Plei in this. There were some stupid things I did. , but I am here - and that's a really good place to be. A few awful things have happened, but I am where I am and I like where I am , so - I'm ok with that.

Deena - Feb 09, 2005 9:17:46 am PST #9996 of 10002
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

sumi,~ma to your friend and her mom. ~ma for Vortex's godson, too.

Plei, only 10.5 weeks? Where did the time go?

Chikat, so very adorable. Yay!

Steph L. - Feb 09, 2005 9:18:09 am PST #9997 of 10002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

::waits for wife to rush in to defend Paul::

JZ has a defense for Paul???


This I gotta hear.

Paul was kind of weird about sex/marriage, but on the whole, he wasn't as cracked as people make him out to be.

t edit Obviously, I'm not JZ. But I can never keep my mouth shut, it seems.

Susan W. - Feb 09, 2005 9:18:23 am PST #9998 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I'm getting better with not regretting things. Gradually. I mean, if I hadn't fucked up every career decision I made before I was 25, I'd never have been in a position to drop everything and go to England for a year. So I wouldn't have had that whole wonderful experience, and, incidentally, I never would've met Dylan. Which is not to say I wouldn't have had wonderful experiences and met someone great for me if I'd followed one of those other paths, but where I am now is a pretty good place to be.

And I've even started forgiving myself for having been such a gung-ho fundamentalist in my college days. In some ways I was immature for my age, and I'd had a very sheltered upbringing, so it probably wasn't so bad for me to end up in a place where I kind of sheltered myself until I was ready to deal with the world on my own terms. And it wasn't all reading Passion and Purity and giving ourselves guilt and angst. I made some good friends, many of whom are still dear to me to this day, and had a lot of fun in college. Just because I'd do it differently with the wisdom I've gained since doesn't mean I did it wrong then.

DavidS - Feb 09, 2005 9:19:49 am PST #9999 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

JZ has a defense for Paul???

Oh yeah. She's a key apologist for any number of theologians and religious figures (cf. Lewis, C.S.).

Jen - Feb 09, 2005 9:20:12 am PST #10000 of 10002
love's a dream you enter though I shake and shake and shake you


Edit: Sweet!

P.M. Marc - Feb 09, 2005 9:21:29 am PST #10001 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Plei, only 10.5 weeks? Where did the time go?

I *know*! It's just been flying by. We (finally) got the dressers moved out of the bedroom and into the little room that's off the bedroom, but then I measured and there's *still* not enough room for a crib (it's just barely too small a space), so we're going to need to re-think the bedroom layout, because we can't have the office cleared out, refloored, and rebedroomized by April.

Next house, the bedrooms are gonna be larger than 10'x10', damn it.