Buffy: So how'd she get away with the bad mojo stuff? Anya: Giles sold it to her. Giles: Well, I didn't know it was her. I mean, how could I? If it's any consolation, I may have overcharged her.

'Sleeper'


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§ ita § - Jun 20, 2006 11:14:36 am PDT #580 of 3639
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

she'll have to prim up her accent quite a bit.

I doubt many British actors get very far without being able to tweak their accents.


Betsy HP - Jun 20, 2006 11:46:22 am PDT #581 of 3639
If I only had a brain...

Yeah, but Billie Piper started out as a pop star, not an actor, so she probably doesn't have the full-on training that Tennant or Eccleston does. I STILL wish they'd used Tennant's real accent, dammit.


§ ita § - Jun 20, 2006 12:29:56 pm PDT #582 of 3639
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

she probably doesn't have the full-on training that Tennant or Eccleston does

I don't know how much training either of them do have, but if it takes training, judging by my experience watching British TV in the 80s, there must be a lot of schools out there full to the brim. It's not something that ever stuck out as uncommon.


Betsy HP - Jun 20, 2006 1:54:04 pm PDT #583 of 3639
If I only had a brain...

Tennant went to the Scottish equivalent of RADA and has worked with the RSC; Eccleston went to the Central School of Speech and Drama. So, yes, trained actors both.

One of the things I love about British actors is that they are expected to be able to do accents. (Except American, which they are as bad at as Americans are at British.)


§ ita § - Jun 20, 2006 2:52:53 pm PDT #584 of 3639
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So, yes, trained actors both.

I'm not comparing her directly to them, though. Never was.

For all I know, she's crap at accents. My point is merely that being a British actor able to shift accents isn't, as far as I can tell, dependent on being trained.

Except American, which they are as bad at as Americans are at British.

I think there are more British actors who can do a generic American accent decently than there are American actors who can pass in the other direction.


Betsy HP - Jun 20, 2006 3:25:09 pm PDT #585 of 3639
If I only had a brain...

Well, I can count (off the top of my head) two British actors who can do a generic American accent correctly and no Americans, so you win.

(Off the top of my head: Miranda Richardson, Hugh Laurie.) No, Alexis Denisov doesn't count, because he trained in England.


DebetEsse - Jun 20, 2006 4:00:37 pm PDT #586 of 3639
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Is there a generic British accent, in the way that there is (you know, Des Moines) in the States?


Jon B. - Jun 20, 2006 7:07:13 pm PDT #587 of 3639
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

How could you forget Dick Van Dyke!!?!

t ducks


§ ita § - Jun 20, 2006 8:23:58 pm PDT #588 of 3639
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Off the top of my head I add Colin Farrell on the faking Brit side, and know there are others but my mind is completely blank right now. I think I've heard Liam Neeson be decent too.

Is there a generic British accent, in the way that there is (you know, Des Moines) in the States?

There's the old school BBC accent (received pronunciation, I think), but British TV uses a wider range of accents than US TV does.


Scrappy - Jun 21, 2006 7:10:49 am PDT #589 of 3639
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Gwyneth Paltrow and Renee Zellweger both got props from the British for their accents, as I recall.