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'Jaynestown'


Spoilers 3: First Mutant Enemy, Now the World

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Topic!Cindy - Mar 20, 2007 5:36:05 am PDT #1952 of 3486
What is even happening?

Strega, I'm too spoiled to feel right posting this in thread about the post you made in the Boxed Set thread, so I'm importing part of it.

I am sorta in the camp that it'll turn out she's a Cylon. Because from the first "Starbuck dies" thing I saw, I thought, "Oh, so she's a Cylon, then. Heh." The tidbits from the podcasts do intrigue me, though. I would be fine with her being a Cylon; it would make sense to me. But I had a love/hate relationship with Starbuck so her death by itself doesn't do anything besides surprise me. That said, the episode was very moving, and she was fantastic in it, especially since I still felt kinda pole-axed by the ending despite the spoilage.

If she's a Cylon, that's kind of awesome. Maybe 50% awesome. If she's well and truly dead, that's TOTALLY awesome. If she's human and alive through some magic Starbuck power, that's negative 90% awesomeness, and I may just give up on the show since I've been off and on with it all season.

The more I think about it, the more I think Starbuck is going to turn out to be a Cylon-Human hybrid. I was thinking about the (not that well executed) triangle between her, Anders, and Apollo, and how she can't really let go of either of them, and how neither of them can really let go of her, and it makes the most sense to me.

Would that be deal breaker for you?

How about the rest of you?


Juliebird - Mar 20, 2007 5:44:25 am PDT #1953 of 3486
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I think Starbuck is going to turn out to be a Cylon-Human hybrid.

Maybe that's why her mum kept telling her she was special? Maybe her mum knew (fell in love with a Toaster during the first Cylon war, and after it was over, it/he left, and she was preggers. A classic war romance.)


Topic!Cindy - Mar 20, 2007 6:30:27 am PDT #1954 of 3486
What is even happening?

Sometimes, I think Roslin is a Cylon. And when I start thinking that, I start thinking Kara's mother is the Cylon, and that there's some cancer thing with Cylons.

I smoke the spec-crack pipe. A lot.


Strega - Mar 20, 2007 10:34:12 am PDT #1955 of 3486

Hm. Starbuck as a hybrid feels less... tidy to me. Not a deal-breaker, but it'd lessen the amusement factor, since then she's still gotta be all special.

And also, if she's a hybrid, how'd she get reincarnated?


Jessica - Mar 20, 2007 10:39:43 am PDT #1956 of 3486
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I don't think she is reincarnated, actually. I think she was wormholed away and what Lee saw in the gas giant wasn't really her ship exploding.* (Or she's not really there at all, and Lee is hallucinating.)

*note that this is almost certainly The Algebraist's fault, assuming I've remembered correctly that that was the book with wormhole network hidden in the cored of gas giants.)


amych - Mar 20, 2007 10:44:20 am PDT #1957 of 3486
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

My issue with either ToasterBuck or HybridBuck is that the first has Been Done (Hi, Boomer!) and the second has Been Done To Death (Because, like, did you know that they're SPECIAL? And they get really awesome highway mileage? And they're the head of Bob Barker KEY?). And we already have not one but TWO, and they can push each other down on the playground at the Day Care of 21st Century First World Parent Guilt and make each other cry and then exercise their magic hybrid healing powers on each other all day. Aww.

(No, really, it could be like chibi Tigh-n-Ellen. Maybe without the strong drink.)

But a Starbuck who's just as human as ever but just happened to nukify herself to earth and back? That's strange and unpredictable and holy-shittish enough to keep me sitting through the filler eps. Aww, yeah.


Topic!Cindy - Mar 20, 2007 11:39:40 am PDT #1958 of 3486
What is even happening?

Human's still my first preference too, amy. I've already decided I miss Katee though, so I've way softened my ranty-stance I took right after Starbuck's death.


le nubian - Mar 20, 2007 12:03:02 pm PDT #1959 of 3486
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

If she isn't human, she sure is an interesting invention who sustained a lot of breaks when she was a kid.


Topic!Cindy - Mar 20, 2007 1:34:17 pm PDT #1960 of 3486
What is even happening?

We only know about the breaks from the Cylon doctor though, right?


Juliebird - Mar 20, 2007 2:23:00 pm PDT #1961 of 3486
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

And the flashbacks show Kara's itty bitty hands being smashed in the doorway by dear ole mom. And Kara didn't say "what the frak are you talking about, my hands were never broken!"