Zoe: Captain will come up with a plan. Kaylee: That's good. Right? Zoe: Possibly you're not recalling some of his previous plans.

'Safe'


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Strega - Mar 20, 2007 10:34:12 am PDT #1955 of 3486

Hm. Starbuck as a hybrid feels less... tidy to me. Not a deal-breaker, but it'd lessen the amusement factor, since then she's still gotta be all special.

And also, if she's a hybrid, how'd she get reincarnated?


Jessica - Mar 20, 2007 10:39:43 am PDT #1956 of 3486
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I don't think she is reincarnated, actually. I think she was wormholed away and what Lee saw in the gas giant wasn't really her ship exploding.* (Or she's not really there at all, and Lee is hallucinating.)

*note that this is almost certainly The Algebraist's fault, assuming I've remembered correctly that that was the book with wormhole network hidden in the cored of gas giants.)


amych - Mar 20, 2007 10:44:20 am PDT #1957 of 3486
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

My issue with either ToasterBuck or HybridBuck is that the first has Been Done (Hi, Boomer!) and the second has Been Done To Death (Because, like, did you know that they're SPECIAL? And they get really awesome highway mileage? And they're the head of Bob Barker KEY?). And we already have not one but TWO, and they can push each other down on the playground at the Day Care of 21st Century First World Parent Guilt and make each other cry and then exercise their magic hybrid healing powers on each other all day. Aww.

(No, really, it could be like chibi Tigh-n-Ellen. Maybe without the strong drink.)

But a Starbuck who's just as human as ever but just happened to nukify herself to earth and back? That's strange and unpredictable and holy-shittish enough to keep me sitting through the filler eps. Aww, yeah.


Topic!Cindy - Mar 20, 2007 11:39:40 am PDT #1958 of 3486
What is even happening?

Human's still my first preference too, amy. I've already decided I miss Katee though, so I've way softened my ranty-stance I took right after Starbuck's death.


le nubian - Mar 20, 2007 12:03:02 pm PDT #1959 of 3486
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

If she isn't human, she sure is an interesting invention who sustained a lot of breaks when she was a kid.


Topic!Cindy - Mar 20, 2007 1:34:17 pm PDT #1960 of 3486
What is even happening?

We only know about the breaks from the Cylon doctor though, right?


Juliebird - Mar 20, 2007 2:23:00 pm PDT #1961 of 3486
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

And the flashbacks show Kara's itty bitty hands being smashed in the doorway by dear ole mom. And Kara didn't say "what the frak are you talking about, my hands were never broken!"


Jessica - Mar 20, 2007 2:31:06 pm PDT #1962 of 3486
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

False memories of broken bones, I could buy. (Boomer remembered a family and a childhood, after all.)

False memories of broken bones that are also contagious to other Cylons who don't know that she's also one? That...I'd have a tough time with. So even if she is a Cylon, I think her physical scars are real.


Topic!Cindy - Mar 20, 2007 2:47:37 pm PDT #1963 of 3486
What is even happening?

And the flashbacks show Kara's itty bitty hands being smashed in the doorway by dear ole mom. And Kara didn't say "what the frak are you talking about, my hands were never broken!"

Right, but those are from Kara's mind. Boomer thought she had a childhood and stuff, too.

False memories of broken bones that are also contagious to other Cylons who don't know that she's also one? That...I'd have a tough time with. So even if she is a Cylon, I think her physical scars are real.

Oh yeah. Good point. He probably wouldn't have known she was one. I was forgetting that if she is one, none of the Cylons would know, because of the shrouded identity of the final five.


§ ita § - Mar 20, 2007 4:53:35 pm PDT #1964 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What would her being a hybrid do to the timeline? How long have the human-form cylons been around?

I agree with the PoV that all the shrieking about the specialness of the hybrid is diluted by the idea of one having been standing right there the whole time.

I wonder if a cylon fathered hybrid is less special than a cylon mothered one.