Oh, I wish those council guys would let me have an hour alone in the room with her, if I was larger and had grenades.

Willow ,'Storyteller'


Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR  

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-t - Apr 07, 2005 5:46:35 am PDT #7475 of 10000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

DH asked me if I'd rather be needing medical care on the Lost island or in Deadwood. I went with Deadwood, because at least there's laudanum.

It did not occur to me that the cargo door was sharpened, I figured they were going for amputation by crushing and that seemed like a really bad idea. They did get a pretty clean cut through the test log somehow, though.


tavella - Apr 07, 2005 5:54:06 am PDT #7476 of 10000
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.

Note that Jack dismissed the axe. That was because it was too blunt to do the job cleanly. Maybe a sharpened axe, but they have no way to sharpen it quickly and I'm not sure it has the mass to do it right.

I think it was less that than it couldn't cut through a leg in a single blow, it just wasn't big enough. Amputating a hand maybe, but with a leg it'd take 3-4 blows, maybe more, and then you'd have this hideous ragged wound that you probably couldn't stop bleeding. Guillotine = one single clean severing.

Plus, well... aiming an axe that precisely not that easy.


Jessica - Apr 07, 2005 5:54:47 am PDT #7477 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

If they can't sharpen the axe, how'd they sharpen the cargo hold door?


DCJensen - Apr 07, 2005 6:00:10 am PDT #7478 of 10000
All is well that ends in pizza.

I was thinking the cargo hold door edge is very narrow, and the weight of the door itself would carry it through the entire leg.


DCJensen - Apr 07, 2005 6:02:27 am PDT #7479 of 10000
All is well that ends in pizza.

Maybe a sharpened axe, but they have no way to sharpen it quickly and I'm not sure it has the mass to do it right.

I think it was less that than it couldn't cut through a leg in a single blow, it just wasn't big enough.

Right. Hence my note of it's mass. Door had the mass to do it. Or at least more likely.


beathen - Apr 07, 2005 6:03:31 am PDT #7480 of 10000
Sure I went over to the Dark Side, but just to pick up a few things.

I also don't understand the point of the Jack gets married backstory.

My interpretation of this is that Jack is afraid of failure. He wasn't sure if he could go through with the wedding because of what might happen (i.e. marrying her because he helped her and therefore not sure if he could make it through the troubles of marriage). With Boone, he didn't want to fail to save him.

By letting go of his fear of failure he was able to move on (i.e. get married no matter the consequences & let Boone die without amputation and more pain).


Frankenbuddha - Apr 07, 2005 6:08:39 am PDT #7481 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I read it the way beathen did, after I got over the surprise of Jack going through with it.

Which also made it little less of an "all about Jack" thing, now that I think about it.

I think it was to show that in both cases he could let go - something they haven't let us see before, and I liked that he wasn't trying to save Boone because of something he'd failed to do in the past, ala Charlie when he shot Ethan.

eta, I can see how if you didn't have any use for Jack, that it would still be very annoying.


Nutty - Apr 07, 2005 6:13:52 am PDT #7482 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I still think that a controlled (surgical) amputation beats an uncontrolled (brute-force) one hands down, but cannot find the right combination of google terms to plead my case. I did discover that Civil War limb amputations were fatal only 25% of the time, and usually cut through rather than around bone; they took up to 15 minutes. Later surgeons got the time down to 2-3 minutes (including breaking the femur), although in one case this speed with a knife resulted in accidental testicle and assistant's-fingers amputations as well.

I shit you not.


Lee - Apr 07, 2005 6:20:16 am PDT #7483 of 10000
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Can we have some discussion regarding why Jack believes Locke murdered Boone?

In addition to what other people have said, Boone's deathbed mumblings probably made Jack suspicious, since it was clear that Locke had told Boone not to tell the others a secret, though not what the secret was.

What do people think Jack told Shannon about Boone's last words? Did he tell Shannon Boone luuuved her?


Jessica - Apr 07, 2005 6:23:55 am PDT #7484 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Jack knows that Boone's injuries were caused by something falling on him, not the other way around, that Locke didn't want Boone to tell something, and that Locke disappeared right after depositing Boone at the camp. I think it's a fair assumption on his part that Locke was suspiciously involved in Boone's death, even if "murdered" is a bit of a leap.