I, for one, wasn't looking forward to starting my day with a slaughter. Which, really, just goes to show how much I've grown

Anya ,'Sleeper'


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Nutty - Apr 07, 2005 5:35:18 am PDT #7472 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Historically, when you don't have anesthesia, you do amputations as quickly as possible because otherwise the patient goes into shock and dies. Saws rather than guillotines were the usual method, but Jack didn't have a saw.

But, with a scalpel, can't you be quick? Especially if you're cutting around the bones at a joint rather than through -- no need for a saw.

Also, Boone was already in shock (and already dying, for that matter) -- what's a little more shock to a man with a collapsed lung?


DCJensen - Apr 07, 2005 5:42:14 am PDT #7473 of 10000
All is well that ends in pizza.

If Jack even had a scalpel sharp enough, it's still like cutting into meat with insew and nerves and having to deal with stoppping in the middle to somehow sever the bones.

The cargo door had the mass to sever the leg and bone in one clean swipe.

Note that Jack dismissed the axe. That was because it was too blunt to do the job cleanly. Maybe a sharpened axe, but they have no way to sharpen it quickly and I'm not sure it has the mass to do it right.


DCJensen - Apr 07, 2005 5:43:57 am PDT #7474 of 10000
All is well that ends in pizza.

Now a nice Excalibraxe...


-t - Apr 07, 2005 5:46:35 am PDT #7475 of 10000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

DH asked me if I'd rather be needing medical care on the Lost island or in Deadwood. I went with Deadwood, because at least there's laudanum.

It did not occur to me that the cargo door was sharpened, I figured they were going for amputation by crushing and that seemed like a really bad idea. They did get a pretty clean cut through the test log somehow, though.


tavella - Apr 07, 2005 5:54:06 am PDT #7476 of 10000
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.

Note that Jack dismissed the axe. That was because it was too blunt to do the job cleanly. Maybe a sharpened axe, but they have no way to sharpen it quickly and I'm not sure it has the mass to do it right.

I think it was less that than it couldn't cut through a leg in a single blow, it just wasn't big enough. Amputating a hand maybe, but with a leg it'd take 3-4 blows, maybe more, and then you'd have this hideous ragged wound that you probably couldn't stop bleeding. Guillotine = one single clean severing.

Plus, well... aiming an axe that precisely not that easy.


Jessica - Apr 07, 2005 5:54:47 am PDT #7477 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

If they can't sharpen the axe, how'd they sharpen the cargo hold door?


DCJensen - Apr 07, 2005 6:00:10 am PDT #7478 of 10000
All is well that ends in pizza.

I was thinking the cargo hold door edge is very narrow, and the weight of the door itself would carry it through the entire leg.


DCJensen - Apr 07, 2005 6:02:27 am PDT #7479 of 10000
All is well that ends in pizza.

Maybe a sharpened axe, but they have no way to sharpen it quickly and I'm not sure it has the mass to do it right.

I think it was less that than it couldn't cut through a leg in a single blow, it just wasn't big enough.

Right. Hence my note of it's mass. Door had the mass to do it. Or at least more likely.


beathen - Apr 07, 2005 6:03:31 am PDT #7480 of 10000
Sure I went over to the Dark Side, but just to pick up a few things.

I also don't understand the point of the Jack gets married backstory.

My interpretation of this is that Jack is afraid of failure. He wasn't sure if he could go through with the wedding because of what might happen (i.e. marrying her because he helped her and therefore not sure if he could make it through the troubles of marriage). With Boone, he didn't want to fail to save him.

By letting go of his fear of failure he was able to move on (i.e. get married no matter the consequences & let Boone die without amputation and more pain).


Frankenbuddha - Apr 07, 2005 6:08:39 am PDT #7481 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I read it the way beathen did, after I got over the surprise of Jack going through with it.

Which also made it little less of an "all about Jack" thing, now that I think about it.

I think it was to show that in both cases he could let go - something they haven't let us see before, and I liked that he wasn't trying to save Boone because of something he'd failed to do in the past, ala Charlie when he shot Ethan.

eta, I can see how if you didn't have any use for Jack, that it would still be very annoying.