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The Buffista Book Club: the Harry Potter iteration  

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By consensus, this thread is reopened specifically to discuss Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. It will be closed again once that discussion has run its course.

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Dana - Aug 02, 2007 2:54:00 pm PDT #2217 of 3301
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I've seen some really implausible crossovers that have worked really well. I think it's probably a fandom that you can bring people into easily. Melding universes, maybe not so much.


Scrappy - Aug 02, 2007 3:03:41 pm PDT #2218 of 3301
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

What is the racewanking about?


Dana - Aug 02, 2007 3:09:02 pm PDT #2219 of 3301
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Oh, dear, I knew someone would ask.

A Harry Potter kink comm used the word "miscegenation" as a prompt, and further defined it to mean all interracial and interspecies relationships, meaning that stories with Neville/Parvati were classed in the same category as Aberforth/goat.

A fan, who happened to be African-American, noticed this and wrote the moderators of the comm, asking if they realized that the word and the concept were actually very offensive, and could they change it to something like "interracial"? The mods said no, because they weren't going to let anyone censor them.

Then hell broke loose. Two days later, they took the prompt down and sort of apologized, but not before a lot of ugly stuff happened.


Scrappy - Aug 02, 2007 3:59:49 pm PDT #2220 of 3301
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Oh yeah--I did read about that.


Vortex - Aug 02, 2007 5:12:28 pm PDT #2221 of 3301
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I don't know where this concept that the word "miscegenation" was in itself offensive came from. It simply refers to the intimate involvement (marrying, dating, having children with, etc) of two people of different races. I mean, I'm not saying that the person wasn't offended, but I don't see it.


Laga - Aug 02, 2007 5:18:59 pm PDT #2222 of 3301
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I didn't know miscegenation was often considered offensive when I was censured for using it not too long ago. I found a lot of usueful information on the wikipedia page.


beth b - Aug 02, 2007 5:45:15 pm PDT #2223 of 3301
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

there were ( and may still be ) laws against miscegenation. which changes it from a descriptive term to a negative. I never heard it used in a neutral or positive way.


Kate P. - Aug 02, 2007 5:56:53 pm PDT #2224 of 3301
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Like beth, I've only ever heard the word used in a negative & offensive way, in the context of laws or social taboos against interracial marriages. Furthermore, I've only heard it applied to situations in which one of the partners is white. The term carries a strong connotation that the white person in the relationship is degrading him- or herself by mixing with a person of color. It may not have the same connotations in different countries & languages, but its history in the U.S. is pretty gross.


Vortex - Aug 02, 2007 6:25:57 pm PDT #2225 of 3301
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

there were ( and may still be ) laws against miscegenation.

not in the United States. Loving v. Virginia overturned them.


Matt M. - Aug 02, 2007 6:37:14 pm PDT #2226 of 3301
"I'm finished being everyone's butt-monkey."