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Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

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Steph L. - Jul 20, 2004 4:39:14 am PDT #975 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Teppy--you convinced me. I'm going to see De-lovely tomorrow afternoon. Looking forward to escaping the heat with the oh so talented Mr. Kline.

I can't wait to hear your take on it!


juliana - Jul 20, 2004 4:41:06 am PDT #976 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Can we count E.T. as sci-fi? I thought that it was pretty thoughtful. Well, before the guns morphed into walkie-talkies....

So amused by the Catwoman commentary....


Angus G - Jul 20, 2004 4:44:44 am PDT #977 of 10001
Roguish Laird

Thoughtful sci-fi: I agree with Gattaca. And I think Starship Troopers is about a zillion times more thoughtful than The Matrix!


Calli - Jul 20, 2004 4:47:56 am PDT #978 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

What did you think about the way the movie itself was framed?

I found the initial framing in Delovely OK. I like Jonathan Pryce, and the aging effects for Kline were well done. But the various cuts back and forth between time periods distracted me from the story. I didn't need Cole Porter to tell us something in the past was sad/disturbing/wonderful. I needed to see this at the time of the action. And I thought Kline conveyed the emotion of the moment just fine, so the flash forwards seemed kinda anvilly. The Gabrielle's Trumpet piece didn't work for me either, although it was nice to hear JP sing a line or two. But the end, where CP's final heavenly destination seems to be just sitting with Lily at the piano, noodling around with the music, really worked for me.

What did you think?

BTW, I didn't make the connection between you and AM hate. She could have been worse, to be sure. I just thought the song could have been better.

I can definitely see myself picking up the CD.


Dana - Jul 20, 2004 4:59:16 am PDT #979 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

(That and Equilibrium, which gets forgiven because its anvillicious "Emotions make us human! (Who knew?)" message is delivered by Christian Bale, Taye Diggs, and Emily Watson. And briefly Sean Bean.)

Jess is kinder than I. I forgive Equilibrium NOTHING. Not the shameless misuse of its actors, especially Sean Bean, not the fact that it set up a plot conceit and then stomped all over it when it got in the way of making things go boom.


Steph L. - Jul 20, 2004 5:30:29 am PDT #980 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I found the initial framing in Delovely OK. I like Jonathan Pryce, and the aging effects for Kline were well done. But the various cuts back and forth between time periods distracted me from the story. I didn't need Cole Porter to tell us something in the past was sad/disturbing/wonderful.

The cuts back and forth really yanked me out of the story. To me it was too jarring.

The Gabrielle's Trumpet piece didn't work for me either, although it was nice to hear JP sing a line or two.

I wasn't crazy about that scene, though it was nice to see how Kline played Porter's reaction to seeing all these people from his past, who apparently could see him at that point. Particularly his friends' kids -- that actually made me teary.

One thing that I really didn't like was the way the flashback part of the story used the music -- sometimes it was integrated into one of his shows, which worked *really* well for me, and then sometimes the scene turned into a fantastical scene out of a musical, like the "Be A Clown" number. And that *didn't* work for me. I really wanted the movie to pick one genre and stick with it.

But the end, where CP's final heavenly destination seems to be just sitting with Lily at the piano, noodling around with the music, really worked for me.

Oh my God. That made me cry. It was so beautiful.


Calli - Jul 20, 2004 6:07:31 am PDT #981 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Oh my God. That made me cry. It was so beautiful.

Oh, yes. Me too. And it seemed so true to how CP was portrayed throughout the movie. The idea that Porter deeply loved Lily, even though he was strongly sexually attracted to men, was something that I really liked. So often movies show love as some all-encompassing package -- to love someone is to lust after that someone is to be totally happy with that someone. I liked how the movie showed love as much more complex than that.


Polter-Cow - Jul 20, 2004 7:22:02 am PDT #982 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Sexy actress Halle Berry counts the skintight catsuit she had to wear for Catwoman as the "true highlight" of making the movie. The Oscar-winning beauty enjoyed slipping into the sassy outfit for her feline character on a daily basis. She says, "(The suit was) the highlight of the whole movie experience. It was empowering. Besides the obvious sex appeal, it really takes a certain level of confidence to pull it off. We all have physical flaws, but you can't hide them when you're wearing it." But fans hoping to get their hands on the outfit which adorned her curvaceous body are in for a disappointment as Berry plans to keep it for herself. She explains, "It's mainly because I didn't want it to end up on eBay." And Berry is also unsure whether her movie outfit will spark any kind of fashion frenzy, adding, "They've always been in fashion, but they come and go. They're not the most practical thing to go around wearing."

IMDb tells me that Theresa Rebeck has a story credit. She wrote Spike Heels ! She's a respected playwright! What the hell is she doing?!


Calli - Jul 20, 2004 7:24:02 am PDT #983 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

She's a respected playwright! What the hell is she doing?!

At a guess? Weeping bitterly.


§ ita § - Jul 20, 2004 7:24:33 am PDT #984 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

God, people toss around the word "empowering" in the strangest ways. I would have said "capering around like an idiot in impractical clothes." Yet, to Halle -- "empowering."