What should I do, then? Send her a gift? Sacrifice? … Unholy fruit basket?

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Betsy HP - Feb 05, 2005 1:58:00 pm PST #8885 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

The Phantom of the Opera is not supposed to be played by someone whose looks people swoon over!

Well, just think of it as Beauty and the Beauty.


§ ita § - Feb 05, 2005 3:08:07 pm PST #8886 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I saw Closer and my two overwhelming reactions were ... damn, who do I have to kill to get an opportunity to photograph Jude Law, and that Clive Owen is a scary beast.

Then I took a few moments to consider the razors in the voices and the pain and exhaustion in the eyes of a Clive Owen or a Sean Bean, and I raised another prayer for Constantine.


Gris - Feb 05, 2005 11:02:01 pm PST #8887 of 10001
Hey. New board.

I can't even read the word Closer without having an intense emotional reaction. I think that means I liked the movie an awful lot, but I just don't feel quite right about outright saying it.


Anne W. - Feb 06, 2005 3:01:16 am PST #8888 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Then I took a few moments to consider the razors in the voices and the pain and exhaustion in the eyes of a Clive Owen or a Sean Bean, and I raised another prayer for Constantine.

Mom! ita's making me all bitter again!


§ ita § - Feb 06, 2005 6:43:42 am PST #8889 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Sorry, Anne.

Closer question: Does Jane die at the end? It didn't occur to me that she might have until I skimmed upthread. Did I miss something?


Lyra Jane - Feb 06, 2005 6:44:04 am PST #8890 of 10001
Up with the sun

ita, she does in the play.


§ ita § - Feb 06, 2005 6:53:26 am PST #8891 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But does she in the movie?


Lyra Jane - Feb 06, 2005 7:04:19 am PST #8892 of 10001
Up with the sun

I'm not sure. I think that it can be reasonably inferred from the last shot of her -- if you look, she's crossing against the light without checking for cars, and if I remember right you can hear sirens as the screen fades to black. But I saw the movie knowng how the play ends, so I may have been reading that into what was intended as an ambiguous scene.


§ ita § - Feb 06, 2005 7:07:13 am PST #8893 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Sorry, that sounded snippy. When I scanned upthread it didn't seem sure if that had made it from one medium to the other. I was so busy laughing (IMDB has the movie listed as a comedy!) at the reactions of the guys she passed that I may have tuned that out.

I thought it was a very unstagey adaptation, all told. Some of the staccato tempo reminded me of theatre (lots of one word responses), but not definitively so. It would have taken me until late in the movie to guess it was from a play. Unlike, say, a Jeffrey.


Lyra Jane - Feb 06, 2005 7:10:19 am PST #8894 of 10001
Up with the sun

I didn't read you as snippy at all, so no worries.