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§ ita § - Feb 06, 2005 6:43:42 am PST #8889 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Sorry, Anne.

Closer question: Does Jane die at the end? It didn't occur to me that she might have until I skimmed upthread. Did I miss something?


Lyra Jane - Feb 06, 2005 6:44:04 am PST #8890 of 10001
Up with the sun

ita, she does in the play.


§ ita § - Feb 06, 2005 6:53:26 am PST #8891 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But does she in the movie?


Lyra Jane - Feb 06, 2005 7:04:19 am PST #8892 of 10001
Up with the sun

I'm not sure. I think that it can be reasonably inferred from the last shot of her -- if you look, she's crossing against the light without checking for cars, and if I remember right you can hear sirens as the screen fades to black. But I saw the movie knowng how the play ends, so I may have been reading that into what was intended as an ambiguous scene.


§ ita § - Feb 06, 2005 7:07:13 am PST #8893 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Sorry, that sounded snippy. When I scanned upthread it didn't seem sure if that had made it from one medium to the other. I was so busy laughing (IMDB has the movie listed as a comedy!) at the reactions of the guys she passed that I may have tuned that out.

I thought it was a very unstagey adaptation, all told. Some of the staccato tempo reminded me of theatre (lots of one word responses), but not definitively so. It would have taken me until late in the movie to guess it was from a play. Unlike, say, a Jeffrey.


Lyra Jane - Feb 06, 2005 7:10:19 am PST #8894 of 10001
Up with the sun

I didn't read you as snippy at all, so no worries.


Sue - Feb 06, 2005 7:33:28 am PST #8895 of 10001
hip deep in pie

But does she in the movie?

In the movie the last shot is her stepping out into traffic. I think they leave it kind of ambiguous what happens then.


Sue - Feb 06, 2005 7:39:26 am PST #8896 of 10001
hip deep in pie

I found it totally stagy. Or the dialogue anyway...


Jars - Feb 06, 2005 7:58:38 am PST #8897 of 10001

I had no idea that she dies in the play, and didn't twig to any hints of it in the film either. I may have been to busy watching Natalie Portman walk down the street though.

I thought Clive Owen was fabulous. There was a masculine maturity about him that you don't often see in Hollywood actors.


Scrappy - Feb 06, 2005 8:27:28 am PST #8898 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Masculine maturity--what a perfect description!