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§ ita § - Feb 06, 2005 7:07:13 am PST #8893 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Sorry, that sounded snippy. When I scanned upthread it didn't seem sure if that had made it from one medium to the other. I was so busy laughing (IMDB has the movie listed as a comedy!) at the reactions of the guys she passed that I may have tuned that out.

I thought it was a very unstagey adaptation, all told. Some of the staccato tempo reminded me of theatre (lots of one word responses), but not definitively so. It would have taken me until late in the movie to guess it was from a play. Unlike, say, a Jeffrey.


Lyra Jane - Feb 06, 2005 7:10:19 am PST #8894 of 10001
Up with the sun

I didn't read you as snippy at all, so no worries.


Sue - Feb 06, 2005 7:33:28 am PST #8895 of 10001
hip deep in pie

But does she in the movie?

In the movie the last shot is her stepping out into traffic. I think they leave it kind of ambiguous what happens then.


Sue - Feb 06, 2005 7:39:26 am PST #8896 of 10001
hip deep in pie

I found it totally stagy. Or the dialogue anyway...


Jars - Feb 06, 2005 7:58:38 am PST #8897 of 10001

I had no idea that she dies in the play, and didn't twig to any hints of it in the film either. I may have been to busy watching Natalie Portman walk down the street though.

I thought Clive Owen was fabulous. There was a masculine maturity about him that you don't often see in Hollywood actors.


Scrappy - Feb 06, 2005 8:27:28 am PST #8898 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Masculine maturity--what a perfect description!


§ ita § - Feb 06, 2005 10:14:06 am PST #8899 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I found it totally stagy. Or the dialogue anyway...

What irks me about adaptations tends to be less in the actual dialogue, and more in how it's delivered. Which drives me nuts, because ... these are most likely movie actors -- why they gotta project for a theatre all of a sudden?

Also, the locations were sufficiently intercut that I didn't feel like I was waiting for scenery changes inbetween interactions.

I did not like Julia Roberts' character -- don't know if it was her or the role, but even as I couldn't respect Dan, I could get what drew women to him. Anna? A million times not.


bon bon - Feb 06, 2005 10:19:25 am PST #8900 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Should I see Closer today? Is it worth it?


§ ita § - Feb 06, 2005 10:23:11 am PST #8901 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I ... enjoy's not the right word, but I'm glad I saw it. I liked it.


Gris - Feb 06, 2005 11:40:02 am PST #8902 of 10001
Hey. New board.

I am very much with ita on the Closer response. Enjoy is NOT the correct word, but it is worth seeing.

I also found the adaptation pretty un-stagey in many ways. I mean, the dialogue felt like a play, but it wasn't a Wait Until Dark straight-up stage-to-screen movement, either. There were lots of sets.

I don't think that Alice is guaranteed to have died. In fact, until I found out she died in the play, I didn't even see it as a possibility. Sure, she's walking out into traffic, but it's exactly the same thing she did in the first scene of the movie. The vibe I got was that Alice was basically unchanged by the events of the movie, a catalyst for the changes of the others. Really, her situation is exactly like it was at the beginning of the film: she's hot, she's walking down a street and guys are staring, she's ignoring the world around her enough to put herself into idiotic danger. She ran to a new city to get away from a guy she once loved and no longer loved. For her, everything was exactly the same. That's all the last scene drove into my head. That, and, "Yes, we the filmmakers are aware that Natalie Portman is incredibly fucking hot."