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Frankenbuddha - Jan 20, 2005 6:47:02 am PST #8039 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Reminiscing about RICOCHET got me thinking. What movies can you absolutely make zero case for as good movies, but are absolutely enthralled with? Not necessarily love, or even like, but if you flipped on them while channel surfing, you'd have to stop and watch them in all their horrible glory?

I don't count RICOCHET in this category (too much fun) - the movie that occurred to me was one I flipped on to recently: FLASH GORDON. Here's one I can say that I don't even like in any traditional sense, but I find it fasinatingly awful.

I may just be on the same wavelength with this question as MST3K, but I'm thinking more in terms that you can't even mock what you're watching because you're so in the movie's thrall.

Or in a similar vein, though I don't have a good example of this off the top of my head, movies that you'd be hard pressed to justify as good in any way that you adore beyond all reason.


Polter-Cow - Jan 20, 2005 6:51:20 am PST #8040 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

This question immediately calls to my mind Deep Blue Sea, except I really do like it, even though I know I'm probably not supposed to. I call it a guilty pleasure, but I think you're asking for something else. I don't know if there's a word for what you mean...yet.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 20, 2005 6:55:57 am PST #8041 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Yeah, DEEP BLUE SEA is in the RICOCHET category I think. How can you not enjoy a movie that so gleefully offs 90% of it's cast?

You're right, it's kind of an amorphous idea; I thought it might kick up some discussion, if nothing else.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 20, 2005 7:11:00 am PST #8042 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think I mentioned To Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything, Julie Newmar up above. I love that movie beyond all reason despite its being painfully bad. (Also, after talking about it yesterday I saw I Love the 90s last night and they had clips, with everyone talking about how ugly a woman Snipes made!)

I think O. C. and Stiggs is probably the worst movie Altman ever made, but I enjoy it much more than his better works.


Scrappy - Jan 20, 2005 7:15:23 am PST #8043 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I have to watch "Turner and Hooch" every time I flip past it. Can't not watch (and enjoy) it.

It's terrible, but both the dog and Tom Hanks are adorable in it.


Jessica - Jan 20, 2005 7:17:24 am PST #8044 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

What movies can you absolutely make zero case for as good movies, but are absolutely enthralled with?

Dune. I can't help it, I just love it, in all it's ginormously crappy glory.

(Of course, me being the argumentative brat that I am, I could probably try to make a case for almost anything I enjoyed. But there are a few cases where I'm at least aware that my argument really boils down to "Because I liked it SO THERE." I suppose I'd have to include Matrix Revolutions in that category.)


Jessica - Jan 20, 2005 7:18:09 am PST #8045 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think O. C. and Stiggs is probably the worst movie Altman ever made, but I enjoy it much more than his better works.

I haven't seen it, but I have a hard time believing it was worse than Popeye.


Betsy HP - Jan 20, 2005 7:25:37 am PST #8046 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

What movies can you absolutely make zero case for as good movies, but are absolutely enthralled with?

Phantom of the Opera.


Betsy HP - Jan 20, 2005 7:26:11 am PST #8047 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

But the grand champion has to be Flash Gordon.

There is NO EXCUSE for that movie, and God, how I love it.


Glamcookie - Jan 20, 2005 7:29:03 am PST #8048 of 10001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

What movies can you absolutely make zero case for as good movies, but are absolutely enthralled with?

Most of mine are baddies that I loved as a child. Grease 2 (I want a cooooool rider!), Clash of the Titans, Pollyanna, and Flash Gordon (Betsy!).