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What movies can you absolutely make zero case for as good movies, but are absolutely enthralled with?
Dune. I can't help it, I just love it, in all it's ginormously crappy glory.
(Of course, me being the argumentative brat that I am, I could probably try to make a case for almost anything I enjoyed. But there are a few cases where I'm at least aware that my argument really boils down to "Because I liked it SO THERE." I suppose I'd have to include Matrix Revolutions in that category.)
I think O. C. and Stiggs is probably the worst movie Altman ever made, but I enjoy it much more than his better works.
I haven't seen it, but I have a hard time believing it was worse than Popeye.
What movies can you absolutely make zero case for as good movies, but are absolutely enthralled with?
Phantom of the Opera.
But the grand champion has to be Flash Gordon.
There is NO EXCUSE for that movie, and God, how I love it.
What movies can you absolutely make zero case for as good movies, but are absolutely enthralled with?
Most of mine are baddies that I loved as a child. Grease 2 (I want a cooooool rider!), Clash of the Titans, Pollyanna, and Flash Gordon (Betsy!).
Dune. I can't help it, I just love it, in all it's ginormously crappy glory.
I'm with you here ( idly wonders if he still has the info sheet that was handed out to help people know what was going on )...
I haven't seen it, but I have a hard time believing it was worse than Popeye.
...and now you lose me. I adore POPEYE, and wouldn't even hesitate to defend it, although I'd probably do a crappy job if I tried.
"He's Laaaarge!"
In Shelley Duvall's nonexistent voice.
Oy.
I haven't seen it, but I have a hard time believing it was worse than Popeye.
I don't know. Popeye at least had a purpose, as well as the most perfect example of casting in the history of cinema. O. C. and Stiggs was kind of pointless. It's basically David Lean's Porky's IV.
I think your post cut off "Oyle" Betsy. :)
Seriously, though, if you've ever heard the singing in the old cartoons (and many of them had songs), Duvall wasn't too far off the mark.
I just realized that DUNE and POPEYE are similar in that they are unmistakebly the work of idiosyncratic directors who are probably trying to tackle a genre/subject/whatev that's dead wrong for them.
As far as unreasonable love goes, I'd be hard-pressed to defend my love for huge portions of the Ken Russell ouvre.
Flash Gordon really is the grand master of trashy bad movies that are fun despite having no redeeming features, though. Plus, I think it may be what made me gay, along with countless others.