I'm sorry, dad. You know I would never have tried to save River's life if I had known there was a dinner party at risk.

Simon ,'Safe'


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Sean K - Jul 17, 2004 6:59:54 am PDT #767 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

This error is taking me to some strange places. That would be "Jennifer" not "Janet". Heh.

D'oh! Thanks for catching that, Frank. I clearly wasn't paying attention, and was in the middle of like my third or fourth game of Literati.

I saw AlienĀ³ in a dollar theater back in the day, and I recall liking it more than everyone else does. Alien: Resurrection doesn't even feel like an Alien movie, when compared to the other three.

I actually like Alien3 a lot, because it's Fincher's first film (or became his first film, about half way through) He inherited a mess, and did okay with it. I would have liked to have seen what he could have done with the franchise without the additional problems that came along with it.

I despise Alien: Resurrection. It's a horrible, horrible film, despite the fact that Joss wrote the script. Frankly, I think it's a franchise that wouldn't have benefitted from Joss' touch.

In particular, I don't know if the bit about the alien queen getting human DNA, and giving birth to that "humanoid" alien was Joss' idea, but if it was, that was the stupidest part of that movie.

One of the primary components that made aliens scary was the queen reproduced like an insect, laying hundreds or thousands of eggs at a time. Changing that so she gives birth to one dumb, slow, ugly one was LAME!


Jessica - Jul 17, 2004 7:06:05 am PDT #768 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

In particular, I don't know if the bit about the alien queen getting human DNA, and giving birth to that "humanoid" alien was Joss' idea, but if it was, that was the stupidest part of that movie.

I think that's trumped by the ressurection of Ripley as part-alien, if only because of my dad's comment, "If I choked to death on a sandwich, and they cloned me to bring me back to life, I wouldn't come back part-sandwich!"


Polter-Cow - Jul 17, 2004 7:07:07 am PDT #769 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I actually like Alien3 a lot, because it's Fincher's first film (or became his first film, about half way through)

You a Fincher fan too? Rock.

From IMDb:

Whedon originally scripted the Newborn creature as a four-legged, eyeless, bone-white creature with red veins running along the sides of its head. It had an inner jaw, similar to the all the other aliens. It also had a pair of pincers on the sides of his head. These pincers were used to hold its prey still as it drained the prey of blood with its inner jaw. The creature was also larger, nearly the size of the queen alien. In later script revisions, the creature was changed into a "more believable" hybrid of human and alien.


Volans - Jul 17, 2004 7:08:19 am PDT #770 of 10001
move out and draw fire

I wasn't a big Alien3 fan. I should give it another shot; I've only seen it the once. I really hated the ending.

In total agreement with Sean about Resurrection. Gah.


Sean K - Jul 17, 2004 7:09:14 am PDT #771 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

"If I choked to death on a sandwich, and they cloned me to bring me back to life, I wouldn't come back part-sandwich!"

BWAHAHAHA!!!

You a Fincher fan too? Rock.

Oh yes. Fincher is a man with many, many issues and devils, and I kind of enjoy how he tries to work them out onscreen.


Jessica - Jul 17, 2004 7:10:40 am PDT #772 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

In later script revisions, the creature was changed into a "more believable" hybrid of human and alien.

This must be some strange usage of the word "believable" that I was not previously aware of.


Sean K - Jul 17, 2004 7:11:07 am PDT #773 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I wasn't a big Alien3 fan. I should give it another shot; I've only seen it the once. I really hated the ending.

It does have it's problems. It's definitely one of those movies that had too many people (read "studio executives") trying to make it at the same time, and it suffered through multiple director changes.


Polter-Cow - Jul 17, 2004 7:12:25 am PDT #774 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Fincher is a man with many, many issues and devils, and I kind of enjoy how he tries to work them out onscreen.

Really? I just like his visual style. And I've liked every one of his movies quite a bit. I know nothing of the man's issues and/or devils.


Jessica - Jul 17, 2004 7:15:22 am PDT #775 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Other than Se7en (which has a fantastic last 20 minutes, pity about the hour and a half preceding it), I am a Fincher fan. (Fight Club being one of my desert island movies, after all.)

But I can't hear his name without thinking of the Editing Room's Panic Room script parody, especially this line:

DIRECTOR DAVID FINCHER
Think I can fit the camera through
the handle of this coffee pot? Think
I can? Huh? Huh?
(he does it)
FUCK YEAH I CAN! WHOO!


Polter-Cow - Jul 17, 2004 7:20:16 am PDT #776 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Other than Se7en (which has a fantastic last 20 minutes, pity about the hour and a half preceding it)

I haven't seen it in a long time. I ought to. It does get major points for using a remix of "Closer" for the opening credits.

(Fight Club being one of my desert island movies, after all.)

I own the DVD. I've seen it at least four times now, probably. I need to listen to all the commentaries on that disc. I wish I had the two-disc version, though.

But I can't hear his name without thinking of the Editing Room's Panic Room script parody, especially this line:

Hee hee hee. On the money. Panic Room was all right, a decent thriller. Not exceptional.

The Game is one hell of a mindfuck. Loved it.

ETA: Appropriate post number.