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'War Stories'


Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

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Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 29, 2004 6:40:36 am PST #7440 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The only way I can bear living in a world where Jim Carrey is as popular and loved by the masses as he is is mentally picturing Lauren Holly wearing diamonds and a mink coat, stretched out on a bed covered in $100 bills, saying "thank God for California's community property laws!"


JZ - Dec 29, 2004 6:40:53 am PST #7441 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Bah. I actually generally like Carrey, and I loathed him here. Not creepy, not evil. Obviously, YCMV.


tommyrot - Dec 29, 2004 6:42:20 am PST #7442 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

My favorite Carrey movie is The Cable Guy. Creepy/funny movie. But it was so long ago that I saw it I wonder if I'd feel the same way now about it....


Jessica - Dec 29, 2004 6:43:31 am PST #7443 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

My guess? He was encouraged to go OTT by the director, because, well, that's why we hired him.

I think the opposite -- the director failed to reign him in, and so he went with his natural comic instincts. (Which is ALWAYS a mistake, IMO. If you listen to Michel Gondry talk about the rehearsal process for Eternal Sunshine, it's pretty clear that his goal was to wear Carrey out as much as possible so that his performance would be toned down from exhaustion. Jim Carrey is capable of very good acting, but it doesn't come naturally. He needs to be directed.)


Dana - Dec 29, 2004 6:44:18 am PST #7444 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

If you listen to Michel Gondry talk about the rehearsal process for Eternal Sunshine, it's pretty clear that his goal was to wear Carrey out as much as possible so that his performance would be toned down from exhaustion.

Wow. Someone give that man a cookie.


§ ita § - Dec 29, 2004 6:45:23 am PST #7445 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Cable Guy, while not my favourite Carrey movie (I think I prefer both Mask and Liar, Liar) failed for the reasons I didn't hate it -- Carrey was so nasty and creepy, and that's what I've always thought of him.


Scrappy - Dec 29, 2004 6:46:27 am PST #7446 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

See, I LIKED Carrey in the film. The OTT stuff went over very well with the younger kids in the theater I saw it in. He was scary, but not scary enough to give six-year-olds nightmares, and kids adore broad humor and he was the only one providing it. The ony ones laughing at Streep (who I totally agree was brilliant) were adults. We were there with friends whose son was frightened to death by Star Wars, and didn't sleep for months and when he did sleep had horrendous nightmares. They were checking this out for him to see fo rthat reason, so it was on my mind.


JZ - Dec 29, 2004 6:47:21 am PST #7447 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

My guess? He was encouraged to go OTT by the director, because, well, that's why we hired him.

Yuh, Frank, you're probably right. It just irks because everything else about the movie is so dark and lovely and right. I don't know whether the director had a brain fart, or some studio executive insisted, "But it's a holiday movie! We need Carrey! You can't cast some Masterpiece Theatre asshole the kiddies have never heard of!"

Whatever it was, it's just a shame. Everything else is so very marvelous, and he's such a blight. And, yeah, probably doing exactly what he was told to do. Shame on whoever told him. Bad filmmaker/executive/money head! No biscuit!

eta: Sigh. Robin is, again, wise -- Lord knows, Emmett loved Carrey in this, and so did every kid in the audience. But they might've also loved a more finely-tuned Carrey, or someone else altogether. We'll never know now; we're just stuck with a movie that kids love unreservedly and grown-ups love with one large reservation. Where's my unreserved love object, dammit?

Oh, hey, look, Michel Gondry!

makes out with Gondry in absentia


Sean K - Dec 29, 2004 6:50:50 am PST #7448 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I think the opposite -- the director failed to reign him in,

This is what I think happened. I forget the guy's name, but I don't think the director has a lot of experience, which having experience is probably helpful when directing a movie with Jim Carrey in it.


Connie Neil - Dec 29, 2004 6:58:23 am PST #7449 of 10001
brillig

"reign him in" would be more properly said as "rein him in", as in "rein in a horse."

Forgive me, it's been making me twitchy and anxious and I just had to say it.