Giles: I jump out of the circle, jump back in, and, and, shake my gourd. Buffy: Hey, I think I know this ritual. The ancient shamans were next called upon to do the Hokey-Pokey and to turn themselves around.

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§ ita § - Dec 04, 2004 8:14:24 am PST #6700 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

See, I don't think that exultation should be weepy. Yet, those moments that seem all exulty get me weepy harder than most people.

That moment in The Incredibles sure got me, as well as when Violet realised she could -- empowerment exultation, I guess. People cry at happy endings, I guess. This is like that, except happy endings (or sad ones) don't do it for me. Middles do.


§ ita § - Dec 04, 2004 8:16:26 am PST #6701 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

she looked taller than him.

She's big, but damn. That'd be huge.

For example, in GLory when they are marching to the battle and the guy shouts "Give 'em hell, 57" and all the men start saying it--finally recognizing these men as soldiers--I cry every time.

That made me tear up just reading it.

The actual battle, not so much.

It does for me. Actual battles do, and for meta- reasons. People in wars die, and the reasons are rarely good enough to throw flesh at. Even the crappiest filmed battle will send me off into the playground of my own prior knowledge.


Sean K - Dec 04, 2004 8:20:38 am PST #6702 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Catching up from yesterday.....

On Aaron Sorkin's comments on the martini: Since the discussion was about Bond, and movie Bond in particular, who drinks vodka martinis, all the comments about gin martinis were basically irrelevant, so his comment about not shaking the martini so as not to chip the ice was not as wildly off base as the dicussion was treating.

They may still have been a little left field, but not so utterly talking out of his ass as it seemed.

Which is not to say Aaron Sorkin doesn't talk out of his ass in his writing, just to say that if you're going to take him to task over something, make sure it's relevant to the discussion.

As for people of various nationalities playing people of various different nationalities, I'm in Plei, Fiona, and Robin's corner: it's called acting for a reason, and films and TV shows want to do business all over the world, so they should cast all over the world.

And if shows and films do better business abrouad than the homegrown fare, it's hardly the producing country's fault.


P.M. Marc - Dec 04, 2004 8:39:16 am PST #6703 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

My Brother lives in Holland, and they have a lot of British shows on there--although I know British TV has no Dutch television shows. Is that a slap in the face to Dutch culture or does it have to do with the relative size of the telvision industry in both cultures?

Not exactly on topic, but you may be able to answer a nagging question I've had for a couple of years: are there a lot of joint Dutch/English productions? (I just woke up, so I'm sure I'm putting this oddly.)


§ ita § - Dec 04, 2004 8:47:47 am PST #6704 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Plei, Fiona and Robin's corner?

Steph inaugurated that corner.


Sean K - Dec 04, 2004 8:49:55 am PST #6705 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Oh! Not to leave Steph out. Thank you ita.


§ ita § - Dec 04, 2004 8:51:23 am PST #6706 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

::is slayed::

::dies::

::revives briefly::

Yet, me, you leave out?

::dies again::


Sean K - Dec 04, 2004 8:56:43 am PST #6707 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Or you.

GAH! I'll just be crawling under a rock now.


Anne W. - Dec 04, 2004 9:03:56 am PST #6708 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

The bit from Glory listed above made me teary, and I haven't even seen the movie. It's similar to another big cry point of mine, from the HBO movie, Citizen X. The point in question takes place when the guy who'd been tracking Chikatilo for years and years and years despite all the obstructions inherent in the Soviet system hears through his superior officer that the FBI profilers, et. al. have been tracking the case through various intelligence reports and so on, and that he is being used as a textbook example at Quantico of what an investigator should be, etc. Before he gets the message, he is just about completely burnt out and ready to give up.


Frankenbuddha - Dec 04, 2004 9:22:42 am PST #6709 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

It's similar to another big cry point of mine, from the HBO movie, Citizen X.

Oh wow. Big cry point for me too. His gratitude at just being acknowledged was heartbreaking.