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§ ita § - Dec 03, 2004 8:26:02 am PST #6623 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is it possible to order a martini made to your specifications and not be doing it in a snooty way?

Cosmo. It's so done.


SuziQ - Dec 03, 2004 8:28:28 am PST #6624 of 10001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I am obviously a martini-idiot. Guess that explains why I have had maybe one in my lifetime.


Kathy A - Dec 03, 2004 8:35:31 am PST #6625 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

It's really too bad that nobody made a film with her as Lady Macbeth.

That reminds me to add the 1960s TV production of Macbeth with Ian McKellen and Judi Dench as Lady Macbeth to my Netflix queue.


Calli - Dec 03, 2004 8:42:34 am PST #6626 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Macbeth with Ian McKellen and Judi Dench

Yes. Yes! Yes!

Ahem. Which is to say, I thought it was a rather well done version of the play.


Sean K - Dec 03, 2004 8:45:31 am PST #6627 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Is it possible to order a martini made to your specifications and not be doing it in a snooty way?

Hee!


Gandalfe - Dec 03, 2004 8:50:27 am PST #6628 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

The original Bond was a representative of patrician snob Britain, which may be why he has always been white and driven Austen Martins and whatall. (Although his choice of drink is distinctly declasse.)

His choice of drink was dictated, in the movies, by a deal with Smirnoff, I believe it was. In the books, he'd drink whatever was appropriate to the situation.


Nutty - Dec 03, 2004 9:00:47 am PST #6629 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

A martini, shaken, not stirred? I had no idea it was declasse.

There's a great bit in West Wing where President Bartlett explains that the reason you stir a martini is so as not to chip the ice, and thus Bond is ordering a watered down martini, and doing it in a snooty way.

Couple things. First, a martini is traditionally gin. You never, ever shake gin (i.e., put it in a shaker with ice), because that "bruises" the gin (dilutes it). You might serve a gin martini in a cold glass, but you never add ice in any way. Vodka martinis are newfangled, and part of the reason they exist is that you can do whatall to vodka and it doesn't affect the taste much. So, shaking or stirring a vodka drink is no beans either way.

Second, President Bartlett was talking out of his hindparts. You stir a martini to mix the gin and vermouth (or vodka and whatever), especially, as with gin, if you cannot shake the two ingredients together.

So, movie-Bond was ordering a vodka martini -- newfangled, declasse -- and ordering it in whatever way floated his boat, as is appropriate with vodka, but also kind of silly.


Dana - Dec 03, 2004 9:03:18 am PST #6630 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Second, President Bartlett was talking out of his hindparts.

On an Aaron Sorkin show? Never! Next you'll be saying that Joss likes to tear out our hears and stomp all over them.


§ ita § - Dec 03, 2004 9:04:59 am PST #6631 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I wonder if Aaron Sorkin thinks that Superman is the costume, or Clark Kent.


Betsy HP - Dec 03, 2004 9:05:54 am PST #6632 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

A traditional martini is iced, because traditionally you don't keep your vodka/gin in the freezer, so you have to ice it to cool it. You remove the ice from the mixed drink as soon as possible, generally by straining it.

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