Oh, I get it. You just don't like who did the rescuing, that's all. Wishin' I was your boyfriend what's-his-height. Oh wait, he's run off.

Spike ,'Potential'


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tiggy - Nov 19, 2004 6:59:55 pm PST #6053 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Van Helsing

Why did no one warn me that this movie was so, so awful?

ugh. i profusely apologize. that movie was awful. Hugh Jackman couldn't even save it for me and i adore him.

what i did watch tonight was I Am Sam for the first time. what a wonderful movie. Dakota Fanning is my favorite little girl ever.


Alibelle - Nov 19, 2004 7:16:05 pm PST #6054 of 10001
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

When my brother saw Van Helsing, he hated it because it was so cheesy. I think you have to watch it, embracing the cheese, and that's when you realize that the cast and crew are embracing the cheese as well. Because it is cheesy. So cheesy it's silly. It's a silly, cheesy, funny movie.

Dakota Fanning is the adorablest.


§ ita § - Nov 19, 2004 8:00:16 pm PST #6055 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If you're not expecting a cheesy movie, yeah, ouch.

But didn't they say? Obviously not clearly.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 19, 2004 8:28:37 pm PST #6056 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

On the ORCA question, I can only assume pre-chomp Bo, no?

Eh, Charlotte was queen of pretentious early 70s films with lots of sex and nudity, and, on several occasions, Nazis. She was in ZARDOZ, for frell's sake, and, like Connery, she managed to move past it. She is the BOMB!

Granted, I get a lot of guilty pleasure out of pretentious early 70's movies with lots of sex and nudity. The Nazis I can take or leave.


Alibelle - Nov 19, 2004 8:30:17 pm PST #6057 of 10001
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

But didn't they say? Obviously not clearly.

Well, at the beginning, it wasn't terribly clear that the over the top cheese was on purpose. I distinctly remember, because I couldn't stop laughing at it, and you kept telling me to be quiet. And then once the audience realized that it was really going to be that cheesy all the way through, on purpose, and Richard Roxburgh gets the gold star for making that clear, then everyone in the audience was giggling. Until everyone in the audience was like, wait, what? She's dead? How? When? Did he squish her? What? And then Kate's face was in the clouds, and everyone went back to giggling.


Sean K - Nov 19, 2004 9:35:31 pm PST #6058 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I've alwqays thought Bo Derek had a square, mannish face that I found unattractive. Charlotte Rampling is all woman, baby.

I could not have possibly set my expectations low enough for Van Helsing. Just... No.


Lee - Nov 19, 2004 9:41:31 pm PST #6059 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Oh sure you could, Sean. I have faith in you.


Sean K - Nov 19, 2004 9:44:04 pm PST #6060 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Heh.


Kalshane - Nov 19, 2004 10:27:03 pm PST #6061 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I think you have to watch it, embracing the cheese, and that's when you realize that the cast and crew are embracing the cheese as well. Because it is cheesy. So cheesy it's silly. It's a silly, cheesy, funny movie.

See, I never got this. It felt like the cast and crew were trying to present a relatively serious action movie and failing horribly. If they were embracing the cheese, they were doing a good job of hiding it from me. Perhaps they were brushing a little to close too the cheese while passing it in the hall, occaisionally daring to share a brief touch when alone in a shadowed alcove, but they certainly weren't doing it shamelessly for all to see.


alienprayer - Nov 20, 2004 2:04:23 am PST #6062 of 10001
Conservative, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. -Bierce

Up next for Somers (Van Helsing director) and his production company - Flash Gordan.

So maybe Van Helsing was a dry run, as without Queen they are in for trouble.