Don't Look Back

What the music guy actually means Don't Look Now.

What I'm taking from these two comments is that the best policy is Don't Look At All.

See, to me it's not about whether he personally insulted me or Fone Bone or 5,000 lurking mainstream critics. I thought it was offensive in itself, as a generalized slam, and his apologizing to Jess without taking back the thrust of the statement bothered me. But I'm willing to drop it.

You know what, Lyra?

When I said "point taken," to Jess, it meant I understood I'd made an unfair generalization.

Thanks so much for butting in to this.

How different did he go on The Grudge ?

Pacing is very different. Lighting was largely naturalistic in the original, but gloominess is now used to such a degree that it has the opposite of the intended effect, with most ghostly manifestations taking place in a setting where darkness telegraphs it. Lots more cheap jump-out-at-you scares as opposed to slow building horror. More gore. Change in rules about how victims are chosen to make things more definite and ordered. Most main characters are now transplanted Americans rather than natives, giving the perhaps unintentional impression that the ghosts are indulging in ethnic cleansing. One character's role (SMG's) is significantly beefed up, and extraneous boyfriend character not present in the original is introduced. Several different police characters are merged into one. Backstory that's apparently from the Japanese TV movies is included as an extra storyline to explain the events .

There's quite a lot that's been changed. While I think the majority of the changes are for the worse, it's still a pretty scary movie. Just not in the league of the Japanese version.

Sean,

Eff 'em. Eff 'em all. The critics, that is...

I think the mainstream critics are trashing it because they need long-winded explanations, or, I don't know.... a bunch of stuff that makes for crappy horror (if you ask me). Or they just don't like horror movies (critics usually don't).

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Though, as far as narrative.... I also think the critics are too needing of narrative coherence. The Grudge does jump around a little, without warning, and they expect you to keep up. So if you are like a mainstream critic, and can't handle a movie that expects you to bring your brain along, you might not like it.

"Moron" is a bit stronger than what you said, but not by much.

When I said "point taken," to Jess, it meant I understood I'd made an unfair generalization.

Thanks so much for butting in to this.

Dude, a)I can't go froom your thoughts, only by what you posted, and all that you posted was that you didn't consider her husband mainstream; and b)ONE CANNOT "BUTT IN" TO A CONVERSATION ON A PUBLIC BOARD. I would have complained even if Jess hadn't said anything, because the generalization did bother me.

Lyra,

Perhaps you would like me to brand a scarlet "A" for "Asshole" into my fucking skin?

Okay, I'm formally requesting that if you two want to keep arguing, that my name not be mentioned. Because I'm over it.

Sean, take a time out.

Perhaps you would like me to brand a scarlet "A" for "Asshole" into my fucking skin?

I am not calling you an asshole, and I'm sorry that's what youre hearing. You're taking this way harder than I meant it. (Besides, you *asked* me to cut and paste.)

The hell?

Hey guys, cool it down, please. The discussion was not enough to warrant this.