You have no magic in your soul. You are magicless. You have undergone a magicectomy.
I think you have mistaken CRAP for MAGIC. This could fixed with a big bowl of raisin bran and a vente latte.
I can poop magic? For real? How cool would THAT be?!?
Yes. Lucky for you, people may be in danger.
Buffy ,'Him'
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Steph L. - Oct 19, 2004 10:12:46 am PDT #4807 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Polter-Cow - Oct 19, 2004 10:14:57 am PDT #4808 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Tied at the top of my list of Worst Movies are Ishtar and Howard the Duck.
Howard the Duck wasn't that bad. I remember liking it. There was a talking duck and Lea Thompson and Jeffrey Jones.
Another sucktastic movie was John Carpenter's Ghosts of Mars. Although I did like the music.
Nutty - Oct 19, 2004 10:21:18 am PDT #4809 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
However, the script did follow the well-constructed script format to a T.
I think that's the problem. The ending, especially, struck me as a terrible, silly parody of what happens in the first chapters of the Aeneid. It was exactly what a script is supposed to do: tie up loose ends. Which was exactly what the cycle about Troy didn't do. The motivations behind an epic cycle and a screenplay are so different that reconciling the two -- especially if the screenplay is meant to describe the entire multi-epic, multi-culture cycle -- is night unto impossible.
Lyra Jane - Oct 19, 2004 10:22:13 am PDT #4810 of 10001
Up with the sun
Kostner talked about a few scenes that were shot, but cut, that would have changed the mood of the movie.
Do you remember what they were like, lexine?
Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 19, 2004 10:24:56 am PDT #4811 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I can poop magic? For real? How cool would THAT be?!?
Ask Cyrus Vail.
Howard the Duck wasn't that bad. I remember liking it. There was a talking duck and Lea Thompson and Jeffrey Jones.
As the first two had a love scene together, I don't think your defense of the movie is all that effective.
Frankenbuddha - Oct 19, 2004 10:25:03 am PDT #4812 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Howard the Duck wasn't that bad. I remember liking it. There was a talking duck and Lea Thompson and Jeffrey Jones.
And, oddly enough, Tim Robbins - possibly his first big role.
Frankenbuddha - Oct 19, 2004 10:29:38 am PDT #4813 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
As the first two had a love scene together, I don't think your defense of the movie is all that effective.
Would it have been better or worse if the film had been done ala Roger Rabbit instead of a midget in a fucking duck suit? Mostly a speculative question, as I always thought the movie might have worked if they'd gone that route instead. Although I don't know if that would have improved the dumb action movie plot the movie gravitated towards.
Alibelle - Oct 19, 2004 10:34:41 am PDT #4814 of 10001
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan
I think that's the problem. The ending, especially, struck me as a terrible, silly parody of what happens in the first chapters of the Aeneid. It was exactly what a script is supposed to do: tie up loose ends. Which was exactly what the cycle about Troy didn't do. The motivations behind an epic cycle and a screenplay are so different that reconciling the two -- especially if the screenplay is meant to describe the entire multi-epic, multi-culture cycle -- is night unto impossible.
Which is probably why they left out huge chunks of information you get in the texts, but what else could they do? Just not make a movie about it at all? Is there any ending that you would have found satisfying? Or would they all have fallen flat because of the disparity in medium?
Jars - Oct 19, 2004 11:05:15 am PDT #4815 of 10001
Dude, Where's My Car?, Speed 2: Cruise Control and Cold Mountain. A trinity of awfulness that I wish I had never sat through.
§ ita § - Oct 19, 2004 11:08:27 am PDT #4816 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Jesse : Dude! You got a tattoo!
Chester : So do you, dude! Dude, what does my tattoo say?
Jesse : "Sweet!" What about mine?
Chester : "Dude!" What does mine say?
Jesse : "Sweet!" What about mine?
Chester : "Dude!" What does mine say?
Jesse : "Sweet!" What about mine?
Chester : "Dude!" What does mine say?
Jesse : "Sweet!" What about mine?
Chester : "Dude!" What does mine say?
Jesse : "Sweet!" What about mine?
Chester : "Dude!" What does mine say?
Jesse : "Sweet!" What about mine?
[later]
Chester : [angry] "Dude!" What does mine say?
Jesse : [screaming] "Sweet!"
Ah, comedy gold.