I actually liked Shanghai Knights. There were too many famous people involved in the main plot, which really bugged, but other than that I enjoyed it.
Come on. You drop by for a cup of coffee, and the world's not ending? Please.
Connor ,'Not Fade Away'
Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned
A place to talk about movies--Old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.
Kalshane - Oct 19, 2004 8:03:21 am PDT #4786 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
DavidS - Oct 19, 2004 8:18:43 am PDT #4787 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Worst Movie Standard: Probably The Goonies. Watching that was an awful experience. Worst thing I ever glimpsed on TV? Some Corey Feldman thing with be-mulletted Corey on a skateboard.
beathen - Oct 19, 2004 8:21:09 am PDT #4788 of 10001
Sure I went over to the Dark Side, but just to pick up a few things.
Yes, but.........a young Sean Astin! He's so cute!
Hayden - Oct 19, 2004 8:23:15 am PDT #4789 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."
I must block out a lot of truly horrid movies. Independence Day is one of the worst non-Red Dawn (which, yeah, is fun to mock) I can think of.
tommyrot - Oct 19, 2004 8:23:39 am PDT #4790 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
I saw The Goonies. All I remember of it is the mediocre Cindy Lauper song in it.
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Independence Day is one of the worst non-Red Dawn (which, yeah, is fun to mock) I can think of.
Oh yes. But it did entertain me, as my mind was occupied by cataloging all the ways in which it sucked.
Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 19, 2004 8:35:44 am PDT #4791 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Hugh has been able to save Van Helsing.
Saving it was WAY more than an actor's job.
True, but at least Richard Roxburgh went above and beyond in his attempts to save it from within. As far as I could tell, Hugh wasn't even trying.
On the flip side, I wish they'd cast him instead of Pitt as Achilles. Just imagine all the filmmaker's attempts at whitewashing the slashiness out of ancient Greek culture being sabotaged by the lead actor at every turn...
§ ita § - Oct 19, 2004 8:43:42 am PDT #4792 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The film-maker's attempts at taking out the slash were poor indeed. People who had no idea there'd been boy on boy action in the original were asking why there needed to be incest in the movie.
Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 19, 2004 8:46:30 am PDT #4793 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Yeah, that "Cousin! Cousin. Totally his cousin!" thing did rather spectacularly backfire on them, didn't it?
Jessica - Oct 19, 2004 9:27:15 am PDT #4794 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I agree that a movie can be altered in the editing room -- the difference between FOTR and its EE are the proof -- but an editor (and the people who decide on voiceovers, and the post-production wizards) can only do so much with the footage they get.
You would be REALLY surprised at how much can be changed/decided in post. Most commercial feature films have a high enough shooting ratio that one could cut two or three completely separate movies out of what comes into the editing room. Characters can be changed from good to evil, A and B plots can change places, C plots can be created out of thin air -- generally speaking, the original screenplay (or even the shooting script) bears very little resemblance to what ends up onscreen, structurally or otherwise.
Betsy HP - Oct 19, 2004 9:36:50 am PDT #4795 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
Flash Gordon is one of the best movies of all time. Shameless and adorable.
On the other hand, the people who made Baby Geniuses and the people who made Good Burger should have to serve a week as ita's target dummies.