She didn't even touch her pumpkin. It's a freak with no face.

Willow ,'Help'


Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

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Jessica - Oct 19, 2004 5:37:10 am PDT #4748 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Hmm....worst movie of all time? Probably a three-way tie between The Messenger, Sim0ne, and League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. If DH were here he'd probably be able to remind me of a few more.


Steph L. - Oct 19, 2004 5:39:04 am PDT #4749 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

For real, y'alls. Scooby Doo 2. With the "yoinks!" and the stupid CGI dog, and the dancing, and pretty much everything involving Shaggy and Scooby, and the cartoon was never that good in the first place, but marginally entertaining in a campy way, but as a movie? No. Not to mention a SEQUEL? Nononono.


Fred Pete - Oct 19, 2004 5:46:20 am PDT #4750 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Or pretty much any Bo Derek movie involving dialogue.

Even 10? Or do Julie Andrews and Dudley Moore not redeem that one?


Polter-Cow - Oct 19, 2004 6:09:44 am PDT #4751 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

and the cartoon was never that good in the first place, but marginally entertaining in a campy way, but as a movie? No. Not to mention a SEQUEL? Nononono.

Actually, the first one wasn't nearly as terrible as I thought it would be.


Kalshane - Oct 19, 2004 6:15:45 am PDT #4752 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Highlander 2 is the worst movie I've ever seen in a theater. It sets a standard to which other bad movies can only aspire.

I saw it on video instead of in the theatre, but any movie that goes through 3 (or is it 4?) different in an attempt to not suck and still fails is pretty bad.

Not a movie, but I'm still annoyed at them spinning off Highlander the series into the dreck that was "The Raven". I think I hated it even more because I loved Amanda on the original show.


JohnSweden - Oct 19, 2004 6:15:47 am PDT #4753 of 10001
I can't even.

Even 10? Or do Julie Andrews and Dudley Moore not redeem that one?

The premise that once she talks, the illusion is shattered, kinda redeems the movie with the irony. Plus, as you say, Dudley and Julie make a difference. I was thinking about 10, but I don't think of that as a Bo movie. She's kind of like set dressing, the way Arnie was in the first Terminator.


Jim - Oct 19, 2004 6:29:30 am PDT #4754 of 10001
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

Or the original Rollerball, for that matter.

Pah! One would need a heart of stone not to weep at the death of Moonpie.


Sean K - Oct 19, 2004 6:40:52 am PDT #4755 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

That was actually a fan-freaking-tastic script.

Really? Now, I speak as a bit of a Homerian purist, but... really?

Nutty, it sounds like Alibelle actually got to read the script before seeing the movie, and several friends of mine said the same thing. In fact, they said it was one of the best written screenplays they'd read. That it was a prime example of the form. They were braced for a fantastic movie, and were quite disappointed by the movie they they saw.

I myself have not read the script nor seen the movie, so I can't offer first-hand commentary, but Alibelle's not the only person I've heard that from.


Polter-Cow - Oct 19, 2004 6:47:06 am PDT #4756 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

In fact, they said it was one of the best written screenplays they'd read.

But...but...the anvils! The reminder every five minutes that HEROES WILL BE REMEMBERED and THEIR NAMES WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN. The Dawson's Creek dialogue of Paris and Helen. The complete lack of narrative connection between scenes. I don't understand how it could read so well on paper.


Nutty - Oct 19, 2004 6:49:20 am PDT #4757 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

But Sean, what I'm describing are structural problems: unless "the script" bears no resemblance to what the actors learned their lines from (in which case I'm not sure we can call it the script), then those structural problems in the finished product had to have been there in the script.

Like, you can do an on-set rewrite to punch up crappy dialogue, but I don't think there's a script doctor in the world who can completely restructure a plot once the sets are built and everyone's in costume.