Or the original Rollerball, for that matter.
Pah! One would need a heart of stone not to weep at the death of Moonpie.
Well, other bands know more than three chords. Your professional bands can play up to six, sometimes seven, completely different chords.
Oz ,'Storyteller'
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Jim - Oct 19, 2004 6:29:30 am PDT #4754 of 10001
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!
Sean K - Oct 19, 2004 6:40:52 am PDT #4755 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
That was actually a fan-freaking-tastic script.
Really? Now, I speak as a bit of a Homerian purist, but... really?
Nutty, it sounds like Alibelle actually got to read the script before seeing the movie, and several friends of mine said the same thing. In fact, they said it was one of the best written screenplays they'd read. That it was a prime example of the form. They were braced for a fantastic movie, and were quite disappointed by the movie they they saw.
I myself have not read the script nor seen the movie, so I can't offer first-hand commentary, but Alibelle's not the only person I've heard that from.
Polter-Cow - Oct 19, 2004 6:47:06 am PDT #4756 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
In fact, they said it was one of the best written screenplays they'd read.
But...but...the anvils! The reminder every five minutes that HEROES WILL BE REMEMBERED and THEIR NAMES WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN. The Dawson's Creek dialogue of Paris and Helen. The complete lack of narrative connection between scenes. I don't understand how it could read so well on paper.
Nutty - Oct 19, 2004 6:49:20 am PDT #4757 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
But Sean, what I'm describing are structural problems: unless "the script" bears no resemblance to what the actors learned their lines from (in which case I'm not sure we can call it the script), then those structural problems in the finished product had to have been there in the script.
Like, you can do an on-set rewrite to punch up crappy dialogue, but I don't think there's a script doctor in the world who can completely restructure a plot once the sets are built and everyone's in costume.
Hayden - Oct 19, 2004 6:53:15 am PDT #4758 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."
Highlander 2 was a great measure of badness, but true absolute zero of ill-conceived movies for me will always be Red Dawn.
Nutty - Oct 19, 2004 6:55:18 am PDT #4759 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
What, Hayden, you gotta problem with highschool Reaganite counter-revolutionaries? You don't believe we could be invaded and subdued by Cuba at any moment??
Pinko.
Fred Pete - Oct 19, 2004 6:56:00 am PDT #4760 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.
Two words.
Endless. Love.
Lyra Jane - Oct 19, 2004 6:56:13 am PDT #4761 of 10001
Up with the sun
My Measure-of-Badness movies are Meet Joe Black (long, long, LONG, dull, AND it has Clare Forlani in it, being supremely annoying.) and Eight Heads in a Duffle Bag (Stupid gross-out humor. I saw it for free and still felt ripped off.) If you haven't seen either one ... don't.
tommyrot - Oct 19, 2004 6:57:34 am PDT #4762 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
The worst movie I've seen in recent years is Pearl Harbor. One critic said that he was making a list of every line of cliched dialog, but he stopped when he realized he was writing down half of the lines. And the entire love-rivalry plot was groan-inducing.
I'd also add Showgirls, but that falls in the "So bad it's hysterical" category.
Hayden - Oct 19, 2004 6:59:30 am PDT #4763 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."
What, Hayden, you gotta problem with highschool Reaganite counter-revolutionaries? You don't believe we could be invaded and subdued by Cuba at any moment??
No, I believed all of these things as strongly as I believe that ketchup is a vegetable, but to name the high school mascot the Wolverines? Completely unbelievable.
Pinko.
Why do you hate America?