It was kinda lame that they digitally modified the Death Star's destructo ray into a giant walkie-talkie, though.
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Hayden - Sep 10, 2004 7:39:36 am PDT #3778 of 10001
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Nutty - Sep 10, 2004 7:41:50 am PDT #3779 of 10001
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I like the scene added to SW 1 with Han Solo talking to Jabba and climbing on his tail.
I disliked it for the reason Hayden cites, but also, it doesn't look like Jabba the Hutt. I saw that movie, and I remember what he looks like, and that isn't it. It is sort of like having a cardboard cutout of an actor and pretending it is the real thing. Also, dude can move? What is the point of making him freakishly corpulent and self-indulgent, then?
Also also, it's supposed to be shocking when he's revealed in the yucky flesh in movie #3. If we know he's basically just Cookie Monster with the color on the fritz, he is not nearly so shocking.
It's the sort of change one makes because one can, and not because the story needs it, and therefore Lucas needs to STOP TINKERING.
Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 10, 2004 7:42:40 am PDT #3780 of 10001
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It was kinda lame that they digitally modified the Death Star's destructo ray into a giant walkie-talkie, though.
Hmmm, not remembering that one... maybe I was still blind with rage over Greedo shooting first and missed it?
Hayden - Sep 10, 2004 7:43:32 am PDT #3781 of 10001
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It's the sort of change one makes because one can, and not because the story needs it, and therefore Lucas needs to STOP TINKERING.
Damn straight.
Hmmm, not remembering that one... maybe I was still blind with rage over Greedo shooting first and missed it?
Psst, Matt. It's a stolen South Park joke.
Volans - Sep 10, 2004 7:55:53 am PDT #3782 of 10001
move out and draw fire
I kind of liked the new Mos Eisley also. But that's about it for good things to say.
Betsy HP - Sep 10, 2004 7:58:15 am PDT #3783 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
If we know he's basically just Cookie Monster with the color on the fritz, he is not nearly so shocking.
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He actually looks more like Snuffleupagus.
JohnSweden - Sep 10, 2004 8:01:15 am PDT #3784 of 10001
I can't even.
it's supposed to be shocking when he's revealed in the yucky flesh in movie #3.
With this, and issues like Greedo shooting first and Han losing motivation to get off Tattooine, it is like Lucas is losing track of his own storytelling imperatives. I mean, to me, he's saying "I already said that, let's move on", when the things he is changing are important to the original narrative. The pieces don't fit together as well. Jazzing up the CGI a bit doesn't bug me as much, although I think it is unnecessary. SW will always be a movie from 1977. You can't make it into the Matrix with a few touched up special effects.
§ ita § - Sep 10, 2004 8:03:00 am PDT #3785 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
You can't make it into the Matrix with a few touched up special effects.
This is my thing. He can't make it compete with Terminator 2 or Jurassic Park, so why even bother? I guess he thinks he's tightening the story, etc, but it really makes the success of the original three seem more and more sheer luck.
evil jimi - Sep 10, 2004 8:07:37 am PDT #3786 of 10001
Lurching from one disaster to the next.
I reckon part of the blame lies with Chris Carter. Lucas has obviously watched the X Files and figured if Carter can blatantly disregard everything he wrote a few years earlier, then he can do the same. Clearly he, like Carter, considers the fans to be stupid and irrelevant.
Having said that, I'd still rather watch 9 seasons of the X Files, than half-an-hour of Phantom Menace or AotC.
§ ita § - Sep 10, 2004 8:12:11 am PDT #3787 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
if Carter can blatantly disregard everything he wrote a few years earlier
At least (dog forgive me for defending CC) CC's only retconning, not actually altering the work for which he has no respect.
I'd still rather watch 9 seasons of the X Files, than half-an-hour of Phantom Menace or AotC.
Well, 7, for sure. But if it was to be an entire hour of AotC, I'd probably go with 9.