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Y'all see the man hanging out of the spaceship with the really big gun? Now I'm not saying you weren't easy to find. It was kinda out of our way, and he didn't want to come in the first place. Man's lookin' to kill some folk. So really it's his will y'all should worry about thwarting.

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Sean K - Jul 13, 2004 6:43:11 am PDT #333 of 10001

You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Edit: When I was a kid, my dad didn't let me have comics. Mad Magazine was also banned for some reason.

Tommyrot, this was probably because William F. Gaines was a big subversive hippie, and Mad Magazine put wrong ideas in kids' heads.

Or possibly just because illutrated == comic in your parents' heads.

One or the other.

All these time travel circularity brain-teasers reminds me of Oedipus, what with the hero receiving a horrible prophecy, then taking action to avoid the prophecy which instead brings it about. So if he hadn't received the prophecy it wouldn't have come about.

That happened a lot with the Greeks. Also Shakespeare. Basically in plays, if someone gets a prophecy, count on it coming to pass. Probably through some action the person takes to try and avoid the prophecy.

Um, what was that movie with Christopher Reeves where he could just think himself into the past?

Somewhere in Time. Also? It's Reeve. The 50's TV Superman was George Reeves. Christopher has no 's'.

Aaaand apparently I'm only talking to tommyrot this morning.

tommyrot - Jul 13, 2004 6:46:17 am PDT #334 of 10001

Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Somewhere in Time. Also? It's Reeve. The 50's TV Superman was George Reeves. Christopher has no 's'.

My brain is like a sieve today.

Aaaand apparently I'm only talking to tommyrot this morning.

It's about time someone realized it's all about me.

Jessica - Jul 13, 2004 6:50:48 am PDT #335 of 10001

If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

In books, I like B, but I can't think of a movie that's done it well. (Groundhog Day and Run Lola Run come pretty close, but they didn't so much explain the alternate timelines as handwave them.)

I need my science fiction worlds to be internally consistent, and rules about how time works seem to get broken the most. (Yes, Minority Report, I'm looking at you.)

Jim - Jul 13, 2004 6:53:45 am PDT #336 of 10001

Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

So if he hadn't received the prophecy it wouldn't have come about.

That happened a lot with the Greeks. Also Shakespeare.

And, y'know, Mutant Enemy...

Polter-Cow - Jul 13, 2004 6:54:55 am PDT #337 of 10001

What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I need my science fiction worlds to be internally consistent, and rules about how time works seem to get broken the most. (Yes, Minority Report, I'm looking at you.)

Oh yeah, I like that one too...except I suppose there's some rule-breaking going on there.

And I love Run Lola Run.

Sean K - Jul 13, 2004 6:56:32 am PDT #338 of 10001

You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

(Yes, Minority Report, I'm looking at you.)

Which ties in with the whole prohpecy thing, as Minority Report was very Greek in its prophecy while claiming that people still had free will.

Nice try, little movie.

Kate P. - Jul 13, 2004 6:58:34 am PDT #339 of 10001

That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

My favorite time-travel universe is in Connie Willis's books. I love the way it all comes together and makes sense and is explained in a useful and not-boring way.

Jessica - Jul 13, 2004 7:05:21 am PDT #340 of 10001

If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

There was a point at which I thought MR was going to to the tragic inevitability thing and not suck. And then it kept going for another hour.

Connie Willis does time travel splendidly. I hope she goes back to that 'verse again.

§ ita § - Jul 13, 2004 7:07:39 am PDT #341 of 10001

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I still think MR did do the tragic inevitability thing.

Nutty - Jul 13, 2004 7:12:42 am PDT #342 of 10001

"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I think that if Tom Cruise had been smart enough to lock himself in a closet at the 20-minute mark, the whole movie would have ended a lot sooner.

Then again, what can you expect from a movie where the whole premise is that yes, people (police) can change the prophecied future, but people (murderers) can't.

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