(Yes, Minority Report, I'm looking at you.)
Which ties in with the whole prohpecy thing, as Minority Report was very Greek in its prophecy while claiming that people still had free will.
Nice try, little movie.
Damn it! You know what? I'm sick of this crap. I'm sick of being the guy who eats insects and gets the funny syphilis. As of this moment, it's over. I'm finished being everybody's butt monkey!
Xander ,'Lessons'
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Sean K - Jul 13, 2004 6:56:32 am PDT #338 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Kate P. - Jul 13, 2004 6:58:34 am PDT #339 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love
My favorite time-travel universe is in Connie Willis's books. I love the way it all comes together and makes sense and is explained in a useful and not-boring way.
Jessica - Jul 13, 2004 7:05:21 am PDT #340 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
There was a point at which I thought MR was going to to the tragic inevitability thing and not suck. And then it kept going for another hour.
Connie Willis does time travel splendidly. I hope she goes back to that 'verse again.
§ ita § - Jul 13, 2004 7:07:39 am PDT #341 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I still think MR did do the tragic inevitability thing.
Nutty - Jul 13, 2004 7:12:42 am PDT #342 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
I think that if Tom Cruise had been smart enough to lock himself in a closet at the 20-minute mark, the whole movie would have ended a lot sooner.
Then again, what can you expect from a movie where the whole premise is that yes, people (police) can change the prophecied future, but people (murderers) can't.
tommyrot - Jul 13, 2004 7:15:29 am PDT #343 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Murderers have no magic in their hearts. But police do (they test for it when folks apply to be cops).
Vonnie K - Jul 13, 2004 7:16:06 am PDT #344 of 10001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.
Liev. Hugh. The wardrobe. The poop-scoop scene. Using the remote control on the shock collar. Mr. Fancy-pants
I liked Liev Schreider's character but the romance was such a limp-noodle affair that it put me to sleep. Hugh's coat was v. shiny, as I recall.
Someone else in the Ryan role--someone with a real edge instead of a girlish pretention to one--might have improved the flick. Ah well.
My favorite time-travel universe is in Connie Willis's books.
Gah. Doomsday Book just about killed me. To Say Nothing of the Dog was delightful, but it didn't stay with me as long as Doomsday Book.
Jim - Jul 13, 2004 7:17:29 am PDT #345 of 10001
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!
Then again, what can you expect from a movie where the whole premise is that yes, people (police) can change the prophecied future, but people (murderers) can't.
that's the premise that the film demolishes - that's what Tom thinks at the start before he's framed.
Lyra Jane - Jul 13, 2004 7:18:19 am PDT #346 of 10001
Up with the sun
I think I like time travel better on TV (Quantum leap, Charmed) than in movies. The Butterfly Effect is fun if you watch it with low expectations.
(I think time travel is like vampires or aliens -- you just have to go with it if you're watching a movie/TV show with that as a component, because it's not really possible to make it logical.)
And as a mostly non-comics person, Beverly, I know where you're coming from. The first time I read Preludes & Nocturnes (vol. 1 of the Sandman), I spent most of the book just being turned off by the art. But I foundf I really appreciated Gaiman's use of language, so I kept going with the series, and by the time I had finished the second volume I really appreciated the way the art and text were integrated. I'm not sure what, if any, comics I'll read when I finish The Sandman, but I have two volumes to go before I have to decide.
Lilty Cash - Jul 13, 2004 7:19:09 am PDT #347 of 10001
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."
I just found out that my little brother thought that Anchorman was horrible, and he was actually ashamed to have seen it. What happened to the kid who used to watch Billy Madison with me, and quote Old School and its counterparts ad nauseum? Sniff. The kid's grown up. The student has surpassed the master. Wipes tear.