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Dana - Aug 28, 2004 4:56:17 pm PDT #3262 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

So 2001 was #2 on that list of sci-fi movies.

Is that one of those things that you had to see when it first came out, or had to see at the right impressionable age? Because maybe I don't get Kubrick, but I feel like you could have reduced that to about 30 minutes and had an interesting story.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 28, 2004 5:36:33 pm PDT #3263 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I saw Garden State this afternoon. Such a beautiful, quiet, subtle movie - I think I liked it more than anything I've seen since The Station Agent. But I fear it's doomed... nothing particularly exciting happens to attract the mainstream audience, and it doesn't have a shocking or weird enough hook to draw in the art house crowd. Just wonderfully realized slice of life story and excellent acting. (Braff is amazing, and Portman proves that she still has it and Lucas can obscure any amount of acting talent.)


sumi - Aug 28, 2004 5:37:44 pm PDT #3264 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Garden State still isn't playing in my town -- but I am excited to see that Hero is!

I hope it's still here next weekend.


Sean K - Aug 28, 2004 5:53:41 pm PDT #3265 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Is that one of those things that you had to see when it first came out, or had to see at the right impressionable age? Because maybe I don't get Kubrick, but I feel like you could have reduced that to about 30 minutes and had an interesting story.

Yeah. It's pretty much exactly one of those things. It was unbelievably impressive for its time. I can appreciate the technical and artistic accomplishments of the film now, but the first five times I tried to watch it it put me the fuck to sleep.


bon bon - Aug 28, 2004 5:59:04 pm PDT #3266 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

To be fair, 2001 is kind of intentionally boring and drawn out. I don't think that's simply because of its age.

ETA: e.g., the NYT called it boring in its first release.


Dana - Aug 28, 2004 6:09:12 pm PDT #3267 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Yes, but why is it intentionally boring and drawn out? What purpose does it serve in the story? The weird-ass light show, fine. I get that. The hour of time that's spent showing ships slowly floating across space, not so much.


Angus G - Aug 28, 2004 6:47:16 pm PDT #3268 of 10001
Roguish Laird

It doesn't serve the story at all, it's pure spectacle and therefore your tolerance of it will vary depending on your tolerance for non-narrative cinema. (Mine = quite high, and I love it.)


Tom Scola - Aug 28, 2004 6:49:52 pm PDT #3269 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Oh. My. God.

Everything Jess said about The Apple was an understatement.

Words cannot describe how brilliant this movie is.


Dana - Aug 28, 2004 7:08:57 pm PDT #3270 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

it's pure spectacle and therefore your tolerance of it will vary depending on your tolerance for non-narrative cinema.

Okay. I buy that. What are other examples of non-narrative cinema?


bon bon - Aug 28, 2004 7:08:58 pm PDT #3271 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Yes, but why is it intentionally boring and drawn out? What purpose does it serve in the story?

Authenticity: the movie is very concerned with authenticity. Manned space flight is an incredible human achievement made of so many smaller uninteresting pieces. And, it's like space-- spare, silent and vast.