Garden State still isn't playing in my town -- but I am excited to see that Hero is!
I hope it's still here next weekend.
But she was naked! And all... articulate!
Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'
Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned
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sumi - Aug 28, 2004 5:37:44 pm PDT #3264 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!
Sean K - Aug 28, 2004 5:53:41 pm PDT #3265 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Is that one of those things that you had to see when it first came out, or had to see at the right impressionable age? Because maybe I don't get Kubrick, but I feel like you could have reduced that to about 30 minutes and had an interesting story.
Yeah. It's pretty much exactly one of those things. It was unbelievably impressive for its time. I can appreciate the technical and artistic accomplishments of the film now, but the first five times I tried to watch it it put me the fuck to sleep.
bon bon - Aug 28, 2004 5:59:04 pm PDT #3266 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
To be fair, 2001 is kind of intentionally boring and drawn out. I don't think that's simply because of its age.
ETA: e.g., the NYT called it boring in its first release.
Dana - Aug 28, 2004 6:09:12 pm PDT #3267 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
Yes, but why is it intentionally boring and drawn out? What purpose does it serve in the story? The weird-ass light show, fine. I get that. The hour of time that's spent showing ships slowly floating across space, not so much.
Angus G - Aug 28, 2004 6:47:16 pm PDT #3268 of 10001
Roguish Laird
It doesn't serve the story at all, it's pure spectacle and therefore your tolerance of it will vary depending on your tolerance for non-narrative cinema. (Mine = quite high, and I love it.)
Tom Scola - Aug 28, 2004 6:49:52 pm PDT #3269 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
Oh. My. God.
Everything Jess said about The Apple was an understatement.
Words cannot describe how brilliant this movie is.
Dana - Aug 28, 2004 7:08:57 pm PDT #3270 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
it's pure spectacle and therefore your tolerance of it will vary depending on your tolerance for non-narrative cinema.
Okay. I buy that. What are other examples of non-narrative cinema?
bon bon - Aug 28, 2004 7:08:58 pm PDT #3271 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
Yes, but why is it intentionally boring and drawn out? What purpose does it serve in the story?
Authenticity: the movie is very concerned with authenticity. Manned space flight is an incredible human achievement made of so many smaller uninteresting pieces. And, it's like space-- spare, silent and vast.
Betsy HP - Aug 28, 2004 7:16:29 pm PDT #3272 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
Well, there's always Koyaanisqatsi...
Sean K - Aug 28, 2004 7:21:11 pm PDT #3273 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
What are other examples of non-narrative cinema?
The Qatsi trilogy - Koyaanisqatsi, Powaqqatsi, and Naqoyqatsi - is a trilogy of movies, the first one made in the late '70's, early '80's, the third came out just a few years ago. They are each a series of visual meditations or tone poems on the state of the world, and society. They have no characters, no dialogue, and no plot.
In a similar vein was Baraka, which also had no plot, characters or dialogue, and featured a more environmental theme.
Other movies sort of dip in to non-narrative cinema, while trying to retain some narrative. 2001 is one example, another is a truly beautiful film by Werner Herzog called Aguirre, the Wrath of God, about an expedition lead down the Amazon (I think) in the 16th century, by a ruthless and insane Spanish explorer named Aguirre. It ends with everybody on the expidition dying, and features a lot of gorgeous South American scenery. See Also: City of Joy (with Patrick Swayze), At Play in the Fields of the Lord (With Willem Dafoe, among many others, with some not so pretty things to say about missionairies).