In the end, I really liked T3. I was surprised to, and sometimes when I think about the Terminator movies, I kind of forget it exists, but it was good.
It's all about choices, Faith. The ones we make, and the ones we don't. Oh, and the consequences. Those are always fun.
Angelus ,'Smile Time'
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Lilty Cash - Jul 13, 2004 5:45:54 am PDT #299 of 10001
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."
§ ita § - Jul 13, 2004 5:47:36 am PDT #300 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I hated T3.
Bill and Ted!
Steph L. - Jul 13, 2004 5:48:48 am PDT #301 of 10001
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated
I can't cope with the conundrum presented by time travel.
In T2, for instance, clearly for the Arnold Terminator (we'll call him "Gov. Terminator") to be sent to the present day, John Connor sent him. But wait! Gov. Terminator is sent to keep John Connor from getting killed. But in order to send Gov. Terminator back, John Connor had to have survived to adulthood at some point in the timeline, so then there would be no need to send him back to fight Robert Patrick Terminator (who, even though I'm finished with my example, will be known as Hottie Terminator).
It makes my head hurt.
beekaytee - Jul 13, 2004 5:49:49 am PDT #302 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant
12 Monkeys
Of COURSE!
Gilliam. Genius? Mad Man? BOTH! (Lost in La Mancha was terrific, warts and all.)
I'm afraid of Butterfly Effect You go first. I'll be right behind ya.
tommyrot - Jul 13, 2004 5:51:35 am PDT #303 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
As a joke, I referred to 12 Monkeys as 12 Angry Monkeys. Now whenever I think of the movie that's the first thing that comes to mind, and I have to remind myself that's not the title.
And I've seen La Jetée. It's possible to like both -- they're very different critters.
La Jetée isn't a movie, it's a slide show! But it's still good.
Dana - Jul 13, 2004 5:53:14 am PDT #304 of 10001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."
But in order to send Gov. Terminator back, John Connor had to have survived to adulthood at some point in the timeline.
Sure. Because he sent GT back.
Polter-Cow - Jul 13, 2004 5:55:00 am PDT #305 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Bill and Ted!
Duh!
I can't cope with the conundrum presented by time travel.
I love the conundrum presented by time travel. My roommate and I spent about two hours discussing the timeline of 12 Monkeys. Another movie with a nifty time travel paradox is Escape from the Planet of the Apes. It's the best of the sequels.
Steph L. - Jul 13, 2004 5:55:26 am PDT #306 of 10001
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated
Sure. Because he sent GT back.
Noooooo! There had to be an initial point at which he sent Gov. Terminator back, where John Connor's past didn't involve being protected by Gov. Terminator from Hottie Terminator.
Dana - Jul 13, 2004 5:57:47 am PDT #307 of 10001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."
Only if you look at time linearly.
Polter-Cow - Jul 13, 2004 5:59:17 am PDT #308 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
And Teppy, you forget the paradoxiest paradox of them all, in which Hottie Terminator from the "alternate" future turns out to be John Connor's father. And actually, the third movie kind of reconciles the paradoxes by claiming the apocalypse is inevitable.