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As a joke, I referred to 12 Monkeys as 12 Angry Monkeys. Now whenever I think of the movie that's the first thing that comes to mind, and I have to remind myself that's not the title.
And I've seen La Jetée. It's possible to like both -- they're very different critters.
La Jetée isn't a movie, it's a slide show! But it's still good.
But in order to send Gov. Terminator back, John Connor had to have survived to adulthood at some point in the timeline.
Sure. Because he sent GT back.
Bill and Ted!
Duh!
I can't cope with the conundrum presented by time travel.
I love the conundrum presented by time travel. My roommate and I spent about two hours discussing the timeline of 12 Monkeys. Another movie with a nifty time travel paradox is Escape from the Planet of the Apes. It's the best of the sequels.
Sure. Because he sent GT back.
Noooooo! There had to be an initial point at which he sent Gov. Terminator back, where John Connor's past didn't involve being protected by Gov. Terminator from Hottie Terminator.
Only if you look at time linearly.
And Teppy, you forget the paradoxiest paradox of them all, in which Hottie Terminator from the "alternate" future turns out to be John Connor's father. And actually, the third movie kind of reconciles the paradoxes by claiming the apocalypse is inevitable.
And I've seen La Jetée. It's possible to like both -- they're very different critters.
Sure they're different. But I saw La Jetee so many years after 12 Monkeys (just last year) that it cancelled out the Brad Pitt movie.
I'm really anxious to see The Butterfly Effect, despite its apparent suckage.
I saw a review for it that said it was just like that Simpsons episode where Homer keeps going back in time and inadvertently altering the future by stepping on flowers and lizards and such, but, y'know, in all seriousness.
It happens, because it has to happen. Or it all unravels and dissolves.
All these time travel circularity brain-teasers reminds me of Oedipus, what with the hero receiving a horrible prophecy, then taking action to avoid the prophecy which instead brings it about. So if he hadn't received the prophecy it wouldn't have come about.
it was just like that Simpsons episode where Homer keeps going back in time and inadvertently altering the future by stepping on flowers and lizards and such, but, y'know, in all seriousness
Wrong butterfly!
I read the spoilers for it, and ... maybe if it was someone other than Ashton. Real actors might have made the difference.