But in order to send Gov. Terminator back, John Connor had to have survived to adulthood at some point in the timeline.
Sure. Because he sent GT back.
I'm fairly certain I said no interruptions.
Buffy ,'Potential'
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Dana - Jul 13, 2004 5:53:14 am PDT #304 of 10001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."
Polter-Cow - Jul 13, 2004 5:55:00 am PDT #305 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Bill and Ted!
Duh!
I can't cope with the conundrum presented by time travel.
I love the conundrum presented by time travel. My roommate and I spent about two hours discussing the timeline of 12 Monkeys. Another movie with a nifty time travel paradox is Escape from the Planet of the Apes. It's the best of the sequels.
Steph L. - Jul 13, 2004 5:55:26 am PDT #306 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe
Sure. Because he sent GT back.
Noooooo! There had to be an initial point at which he sent Gov. Terminator back, where John Connor's past didn't involve being protected by Gov. Terminator from Hottie Terminator.
Dana - Jul 13, 2004 5:57:47 am PDT #307 of 10001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."
Only if you look at time linearly.
Polter-Cow - Jul 13, 2004 5:59:17 am PDT #308 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
And Teppy, you forget the paradoxiest paradox of them all, in which Hottie Terminator from the "alternate" future turns out to be John Connor's father. And actually, the third movie kind of reconciles the paradoxes by claiming the apocalypse is inevitable.
Hayden - Jul 13, 2004 5:59:21 am PDT #309 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."
And I've seen La Jetée. It's possible to like both -- they're very different critters.
Sure they're different. But I saw La Jetee so many years after 12 Monkeys (just last year) that it cancelled out the Brad Pitt movie.
I'm really anxious to see The Butterfly Effect, despite its apparent suckage.
I saw a review for it that said it was just like that Simpsons episode where Homer keeps going back in time and inadvertently altering the future by stepping on flowers and lizards and such, but, y'know, in all seriousness.
§ ita § - Jul 13, 2004 5:59:22 am PDT #310 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
It happens, because it has to happen. Or it all unravels and dissolves.
tommyrot - Jul 13, 2004 6:00:37 am PDT #311 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
All these time travel circularity brain-teasers reminds me of Oedipus, what with the hero receiving a horrible prophecy, then taking action to avoid the prophecy which instead brings it about. So if he hadn't received the prophecy it wouldn't have come about.
§ ita § - Jul 13, 2004 6:01:11 am PDT #312 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
it was just like that Simpsons episode where Homer keeps going back in time and inadvertently altering the future by stepping on flowers and lizards and such, but, y'know, in all seriousness
Wrong butterfly!
I read the spoilers for it, and ... maybe if it was someone other than Ashton. Real actors might have made the difference.
UTTAD - Jul 13, 2004 6:03:26 am PDT #313 of 10001
Strawberry disappointment.
I'm thinking of a film from maybe the late 80's with a battleship and time travel. Philadelphia Experiment maybe?