But if you're hanging on to the head of the hammer, you might as well be using something that doesn't leave you with a foot of unused handle. Frozen spinach, or something.
Fred: Oh my God! Angel, you're…cute! Angel: Fred, don't! Fred: Oh, but the little hands! And the hair! Angel: Hey! You're fired.
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Jesse - Aug 06, 2004 2:02:37 pm PDT #2321 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Allyson - Aug 06, 2004 2:12:50 pm PDT #2322 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Is there a physicist in the house?
I can give you several choices.
§ ita § - Aug 06, 2004 2:14:34 pm PDT #2323 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I can give you several choices.
None of the funky plasma guys. I need people who do stuff with actual mass. Ask them about centres of weight, and the momentum generated when your centre of weight is further out along the spoke.
Ta!
Katie M - Aug 06, 2004 2:14:49 pm PDT #2324 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
You do understand they're not going to be used as demonstration objects, right?
Allyson - Aug 06, 2004 2:30:44 pm PDT #2325 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
The physicists all tossed the whole physics portion out and agreed that maximum carnage is done with a knife. A hammer? You have one chance to get it right. Easier to disarm, as there's no sharp edges to have to contend with when an assailant comes at you. They can just grab the head and take it away. Also, in a demonstration, it took considerably more effort for me to brain Nathan in which he could see and block the upswing of me trying to reach his forehead, than it was for me to use the weight of my body to drive a sharp object into his gut. He can't block that without getting cut.
Nathan can smush my brains easier, as the hammer is coming down, and gravity is helping out with the whole deal.
Which doesn't really answer the question, and also, he was just microwaving an aluminum pan to heat up some pasta, so, there's that.
I'll go ask about the center of weight thingy.
§ ita § - Aug 06, 2004 2:32:58 pm PDT #2326 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Nathan can smush my brains easier, as the hammer is coming down
Step inside his swing -- he can't adjust for distance so well without losing most of his effectiveness.
Allyson - Aug 06, 2004 2:38:23 pm PDT #2327 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Okay, I asked a physicist who wasn't microwaving metal.
If you hold the hammer further down the handle, you have greater momentum and force, but lose a great deal of accuracy.
And then vice versa. Hold it closer to the head and you have a great deal of accuracy, but lose the benefits of the momentum.
Ergo, brass knuckles with blades sticking out of them are the answer.
Sean K - Aug 06, 2004 2:39:59 pm PDT #2328 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Also, in a demonstration, it took considerably more effort for me to brain Nathan in which he could see and block the upswing of me trying to reach his forehead, than it was for me to use the weight of my body to drive a sharp object into his gut. He can't block that without getting cut.
That this caused an impromptu experiment like this makes it all worth it.
ETA: And Allyson finds the most pragmatic solution --
Ergo, brass knuckles with blades sticking out of them are the answer.
§ ita § - Aug 06, 2004 2:42:25 pm PDT #2329 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
That this caused an impromptu experiment like this makes it all worth it.
Do the results bear consideration?
Sean K - Aug 06, 2004 2:46:00 pm PDT #2330 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Do the results bear consideration?
To the extent that I'll concede arguing threoreticals about hand to hand combat is irrelevant when it comes to practical application, as the experiment came down fifty/fifty on the success rate of the hammer attack, but only tested the knife under one of two matching criteria performed on the hammer.