That this caused an impromptu experiment like this makes it all worth it.
Do the results bear consideration?
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§ ita § - Aug 06, 2004 2:42:25 pm PDT #2329 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Sean K - Aug 06, 2004 2:46:00 pm PDT #2330 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Do the results bear consideration?
To the extent that I'll concede arguing threoreticals about hand to hand combat is irrelevant when it comes to practical application, as the experiment came down fifty/fifty on the success rate of the hammer attack, but only tested the knife under one of two matching criteria performed on the hammer.
§ ita § - Aug 06, 2004 2:48:49 pm PDT #2331 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Sean, I haven't been arguing theoreticals. I've been arguing knife fighting principles, and the principles of striking with something with a weighted end. And defense against same. While neither of us (I think) have gone up against either weapon in the wild, I trust my teachers, and I trust the experiments I've done on the matter.
Allyson - Aug 06, 2004 2:50:25 pm PDT #2332 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Hang on, we're now discussing torque.
§ ita § - Aug 06, 2004 2:52:03 pm PDT #2333 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Damn, I wish I could stay for this.
But I have to go to krav.
Jesse - Aug 06, 2004 2:53:27 pm PDT #2334 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
I love that there are now physicists on the case.
But also, it occured to me that if I'm close enough to the bad guy to hold the hammer head in my hand, then I really wish I had a knife.
§ ita § - Aug 06, 2004 2:54:58 pm PDT #2335 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I really wish I had a knife.
Precisely! Range -- you want to keep them as far away from you as possible, and have to do the least work possible to injure them. So if you don't have an AK47, grab the knife before using the hammer as a clumsy roll of nickels.
::really going now::
Allyson - Aug 06, 2004 2:55:42 pm PDT #2336 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Well, you won't lose accuracy with a knife swing, but you will not have the same force as if you were using a hammer, held at the end. And with the hammer, it's all about accuracy, no? Better hope your opponent doesn't move at all on the downswing (or upswing, because i wont have the same degree of momentum trying to brain someone taller).
I we specifically talking about bringing either weapon down on someone's skull?
Jesse - Aug 06, 2004 2:56:55 pm PDT #2337 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
I think we're just generally trying to hurt the bad guy in my kitchen.
DavidS - Aug 06, 2004 2:58:21 pm PDT #2338 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I think we're just generally trying to hurt the bad guy in my kitchen.
I think a hand blender might work if you could stay close to the plug.