Nathan can smush my brains easier, as the hammer is coming down
Step inside his swing -- he can't adjust for distance so well without losing most of his effectiveness.
I'm sorry, dad. You know I would never have tried to save River's life if I had known there was a dinner party at risk.
Simon ,'Safe'
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§ ita § - Aug 06, 2004 2:32:58 pm PDT #2326 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Allyson - Aug 06, 2004 2:38:23 pm PDT #2327 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Okay, I asked a physicist who wasn't microwaving metal.
If you hold the hammer further down the handle, you have greater momentum and force, but lose a great deal of accuracy.
And then vice versa. Hold it closer to the head and you have a great deal of accuracy, but lose the benefits of the momentum.
Ergo, brass knuckles with blades sticking out of them are the answer.
Sean K - Aug 06, 2004 2:39:59 pm PDT #2328 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Also, in a demonstration, it took considerably more effort for me to brain Nathan in which he could see and block the upswing of me trying to reach his forehead, than it was for me to use the weight of my body to drive a sharp object into his gut. He can't block that without getting cut.
That this caused an impromptu experiment like this makes it all worth it.
ETA: And Allyson finds the most pragmatic solution --
Ergo, brass knuckles with blades sticking out of them are the answer.
§ ita § - Aug 06, 2004 2:42:25 pm PDT #2329 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
That this caused an impromptu experiment like this makes it all worth it.
Do the results bear consideration?
Sean K - Aug 06, 2004 2:46:00 pm PDT #2330 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Do the results bear consideration?
To the extent that I'll concede arguing threoreticals about hand to hand combat is irrelevant when it comes to practical application, as the experiment came down fifty/fifty on the success rate of the hammer attack, but only tested the knife under one of two matching criteria performed on the hammer.
§ ita § - Aug 06, 2004 2:48:49 pm PDT #2331 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Sean, I haven't been arguing theoreticals. I've been arguing knife fighting principles, and the principles of striking with something with a weighted end. And defense against same. While neither of us (I think) have gone up against either weapon in the wild, I trust my teachers, and I trust the experiments I've done on the matter.
Allyson - Aug 06, 2004 2:50:25 pm PDT #2332 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Hang on, we're now discussing torque.
§ ita § - Aug 06, 2004 2:52:03 pm PDT #2333 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Damn, I wish I could stay for this.
But I have to go to krav.
Jesse - Aug 06, 2004 2:53:27 pm PDT #2334 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
I love that there are now physicists on the case.
But also, it occured to me that if I'm close enough to the bad guy to hold the hammer head in my hand, then I really wish I had a knife.
§ ita § - Aug 06, 2004 2:54:58 pm PDT #2335 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I really wish I had a knife.
Precisely! Range -- you want to keep them as far away from you as possible, and have to do the least work possible to injure them. So if you don't have an AK47, grab the knife before using the hammer as a clumsy roll of nickels.
::really going now::