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§ ita § - Aug 02, 2004 6:41:23 am PDT #1901 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

whereas this does not strike me as atypical behavior in a 25 y.o. assassin

You had rougher 20s than I did, I guess. I know as many moronic 30 and 40 odd year olds as I do 25 year olds.

You're not giving the average person a license to kill, ever.

I wonder about all the other unlicensed spies. So they're restricted to thrashing their opponents to within and inch of their lives? Much trickier than killing them, for sure.


sumi - Aug 02, 2004 6:41:38 am PDT #1902 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Nutty -- I hope that the people making the "Young Bond" movie use some of your suggestions.

Because: Funny.


Scrappy - Aug 02, 2004 6:52:58 am PDT #1903 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I rewatched Chopper last night. Bana, even 35 pounds heavier, is defintely charismatic. Don't know about the sophisiticated. That's a problem a lot of people have with my lovah Clive Owen, especially in England, I've read. He's not got a posh aura or accent. Me, I think he can do anything.


§ ita § - Aug 02, 2004 6:54:02 am PDT #1904 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

How posh was Connery when he took on the mantle?


Scrappy - Aug 02, 2004 7:01:29 am PDT #1905 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

He wasn't. but he played posh. Clive's got a Midlands accent, which apprently is not Bonds-y. I don't agree with any of this, but it's what "they" are saying.


§ ita § - Aug 02, 2004 7:04:45 am PDT #1906 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

He wasn't. but he played posh

Which is pretty much the key requirement, isn't it?

I'm guessing they think that Clive can't act well enough? I mean, he's not an assassin either, but he did manage to pull that off.

How very odd.


Scrappy - Aug 02, 2004 7:07:09 am PDT #1907 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

No, what I read was that he seemed too thuggish--it's the accent and the slightly bad skin, and the knocked about face, I think. He's rspected as an actor, so I think it;'s more looks and accent. It IS weird to me.


§ ita § - Aug 02, 2004 7:10:10 am PDT #1908 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Spy vs. spy.

Yeah, I don't get it either.


Nutty - Aug 02, 2004 7:20:38 am PDT #1909 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I remember talking about this with Jim E-T -- he said that Owen was "too rough". He wanted someone who had, like, gone to Eton and spent some years in the Navy -- someone to whom baccarat would come naturally, more naturally than craps or other "low class" gambling games. (I think the idea was that Bond was always slumming, hanging around in the spy world.) Then again, Jim's also a book-devotee, and I think we're far along now in the movie-Bond development to give altogether much for book-Bond.

Then again, who is movie-Bond? Gadgets, a quip or two, expensive suits, and an awful lot of narrative convenience. I'd be perfectly happy if Bond were to be reworked, in a distinctive way, for a new actor.

I wonder about all the other unlicensed spies. So they're restricted to thrashing their opponents to within and inch of their lives? Much trickier than killing them, for sure.

I think they just kill off-license, and get good practice in hiding their tracks. SEE: Jason Bourne.


§ ita § - Aug 02, 2004 7:25:40 am PDT #1910 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think they just kill off-license, and get good practice in hiding their tracks. SEE: Jason Bourne.

But ... he's all on-license.

I mean, you send agent 123 out to do his gig, and folks back home are going to know if he popped a cap in anyone errantly.

Or maybe Stiles is an example of an unlicensed agent. It just seems a really odd distinction to make.

Dude, Moneypenny could totally take her.