Riley: Oh, yeah. Sorry 'bout last time. Heard I missed out on some fun. Xander: Oh yeah, fun was had. Also frolic, merriment and near-death hijinks.

'Never Leave Me'


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Zenkitty - Jul 11, 2004 7:39:19 am PDT #116 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Huh. A Highlander movie with Lambert (ugh), with Wingfield (yay), and without Paul (???). Maybe it'll be set before Duncan was born? Dammit, I'll have to see it, no matter what they do. Darn their nefarious power!

Speaking of nefarious power, I'll add my voice to the Spidey love, and to the just not caring about any of the gaffs and stuff. I did, however, cover my eyes and moan when Doc Ock declared he could stop nuclear fusion by dropping the miniature sun in a river.

You can always tell an old comics fan. We're the only people who ever say the word "nefarious."


Sean K - Jul 11, 2004 7:41:59 am PDT #117 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Okay, Hec's comments about Spidey 2 reminded me that some people here saw it and felt that Spidey did things that were beyond his strength.

Supposedly.

People who feel that way need to go pick up copies of Who's Who in the Marvel Universe.

Marvel Catalog Canon flat out states that Spidey is like the third or fourth strongest person in the Marvel Universe, behind only Galactus, The Hulk, and like one or two other people.

Stopping a train is a tall order, but one I think Spidey's capable of.

If I remember correctly, there was a Spidey/Superman crossover once, and Spidey hit Supes hard enough for Big Blue to feel it. Spidey's strong.


§ ita § - Jul 11, 2004 7:44:59 am PDT #118 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But Marvel ranks strength and durability separately. You can be strong, but have a body that doesn't stand up to huge stresses or vice versa.


Polter-Cow - Jul 11, 2004 7:49:25 am PDT #119 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

You can always tell an old comics fan. We're the only people who ever say the word "nefarious."

I had never read comics when I named the villain in my myth movie for ninth grade English Nefarious.


Sean K - Jul 11, 2004 7:50:35 am PDT #120 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

You can be strong, but have a body that doesn't stand up to huge stresses or vice versa.

Oooh. Good point. The stress on his body there had to have been immense.

Of course, durability in comics can really fall by the wayside sometimes.

All of those busses Supes has picked one handed by the front bumper over the years? Those bumpers should have broken off the buss, really.


Polter-Cow - Jul 11, 2004 7:53:20 am PDT #121 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

All of those busses Supes has picked one handed by the front bumper over the years? Those bumpers should have broken off the buss, really.

You should see the innumerable metal objects Clark has literally shattered on Smallville. Superman must have some sort of "Physics Does Not Apply" field around him.


§ ita § - Jul 11, 2004 8:04:43 am PDT #122 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Maybe the chocolate cake is a commentary on the costume not making the man.

As for durability -- I think they're reasonably consistent with it when it comes to people, and completely inconsistent when it comes to objects.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 11, 2004 8:20:20 am PDT #123 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Marvel Universe rated Spider-Man's strength as the 10 ton lifting range, which is both completely insufficient to handle the weight of even one El car and less than just about everybody and his dog among super heroes and villains. Of course, last time I checked the comics Superman couldn't make illusionary duplicates of himself or wipe away someone's memory with a kiss. Lots of creative license is taken in the movies.


Steph L. - Jul 11, 2004 8:32:37 am PDT #124 of 10001
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

For how long do we whitefont new movies? I can't remember.

Oh! Another sort-of-teary moment was Harry's reaction when he took Spidey's mask off and realized it was Peter.

The thing that surprised me about that scene was I had seen it fifty zillion times in the trailer, and because itwas in the trailer I assumed it was a False Reveal, and either Harry would be interrupted before he could remove the mask or it wouldn't actually be Peter in the suit. It was almost a nice change to have a scene like that actually end with a true reveal.

Lyra, I felt the same way!


Gandalfe - Jul 11, 2004 8:33:54 am PDT #125 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

OK, here's my biggest problem with Spider-Man 2. Are you ready? Doc Ock, outside of the freaky arms, is just human. So, why-oh-why didn't Spidey knock him unconcious with one of those blows to the chin? 'Cause there were a lot of them.