We'd be dead. Can't get paid if you're dead.

Mal ,'Serenity'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


brenda m - Jun 17, 2005 9:16:09 am PDT #9545 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

If I were going to read something unpleasant into the episode, I think that might be it - if I were looking for things - that there's some indication that women who are powerful outside the bedroom particularly enjoy the switch of feeling (though not being) powerless inside it.

This bugged me a bit, but from a different angle - I didn't find the emphasis was on how powerful these women were, but how emotionally lacking.


Jessica - Jun 17, 2005 9:18:47 am PDT #9546 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

yes, as would cuffing her

That's the point I've been arguing (badly). I just wonder if the difference for some people is that putting her in restraints didn't physically harm her.


Allyson - Jun 17, 2005 9:19:05 am PDT #9547 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

The sounds you hear are of me stretching an analogy until it snaps.

HA!


Dana - Jun 17, 2005 9:19:54 am PDT #9548 of 10001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Okay, I know everyone's having an intelligent conversation and all, but really, I can't let this go.

Steph!

Colin Firth

Clive Owen

Colin

Clive


Kristen - Jun 17, 2005 9:37:46 am PDT #9549 of 10001

If your date likes, say, kissing and then starts kissing you without asking, or goes for your buttons or under the skirt -- same degree of bad?

I think there are degrees when it comes to unwanted advances. Someone leaning for a kiss probably gets them a hand up or a step back and a, "whoa there, buckaroo." The more agressive the unwanted advance, the more agressive the response is going to be.


Steph L. - Jun 17, 2005 9:43:03 am PDT #9550 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Okay, Colin Firth seems like a nice chap, but is very nondescript to me. I think I've been confusing Clive Owen with Colin Farrell -- is he the one with the eyebrows of doom? (Other than Peter Gallhager, I mean?)

What if instead of cuffing her, he'd smacked her in the face? Would that count as assault?

yes, as would cuffing her

But kissing her wouldn't have been considered assault? (Again, that's not meant to be snotty; I don't know what legally defines "assault." If someone kisses me and I don't want him to, is that assault?)


Vortex - Jun 17, 2005 9:44:01 am PDT #9551 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

that there's some indication that women who are powerful outside the bedroom particularly enjoy the switch of feeling (though not being) powerless inside it.

That didn't bother me, because that's been said about powerful men all the time.


Vortex - Jun 17, 2005 9:44:45 am PDT #9552 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

But kissing her wouldn't have been considered assault? (Again, that's not meant to be snotty; I don't know what legally defines "assault." If someone kisses me and I don't want him to, is that assault?)

depends, and yes, it can be. t /lawyerspeak


Dana - Jun 17, 2005 9:50:09 am PDT #9553 of 10001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I think I've been confusing Clive Owen with Colin Farrell -- is he the one with the eyebrows of doom?

Yes. And not nearly as cute as either of the other two, although Jessica may hurt me.


Scrappy - Jun 17, 2005 9:52:56 am PDT #9554 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Teppy, Teppy, Teppy--you need to watch movies with these guys in them. Not only will you then be able to tell them apart, but they have made some terrific films which I think youd really like, It's a no lose situation.

Clive: Gosford Park, Croupier, Closer

Colin: Pride & Prejudice, Bridget Jone's Diary, Fever Pitch, Girl with Pearl Earring