If my hypothetical date likes skydiving and I say, "Oh that sounds cool. Tell me more." I doubt that would lead to the assumption that it's okay to toss me out of plane without my consent after creme brulee.
If your date likes, say, kissing and then starts kissing you without asking, or goes for your buttons or under the skirt -- same degree of bad?
Or is your date taking place in the plane, with the cargo door open? Does he shove you out of the plane, or put on your gear and then take it off when you freak?
The sounds you hear are of me stretching an analogy until it snaps.
It's not any squickier than some things I know you've seen. I thought the episode was really fascinating (even if all the parts didn't exactly work for me). It's an interesting subject--proven by the interesting discussion here.
Okay. My mind went straight to Faith torturing Wesley here, was that intentional?
What if instead of cuffing her, he'd smacked her in the face? Would that count as assault?
What if instead of cuffing her, he'd smacked her in the face? Would that count as assault?
yes, as would cuffing her
If I were going to read something unpleasant into the episode, I think that might be it - if I were looking for things - that there's some indication that women who are powerful outside the bedroom particularly enjoy the switch of feeling (though not being) powerless inside it.
This bugged me a bit, but from a different angle - I didn't find the emphasis was on how powerful these women were, but how emotionally lacking.
yes, as would cuffing her
That's the point I've been arguing (badly). I just wonder if the difference for some people is that putting her in restraints didn't physically harm her.
Okay, I know everyone's having an intelligent conversation and all, but really, I can't let this go.
Steph!
Colin Firth
Clive Owen
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If your date likes, say, kissing and then starts kissing you without asking, or goes for your buttons or under the skirt -- same degree of bad?
I think there are degrees when it comes to unwanted advances. Someone leaning for a kiss probably gets them a hand up or a step back and a, "whoa there, buckaroo." The more agressive the unwanted advance, the more agressive the response is going to be.
Okay, Colin Firth seems like a nice chap, but is very nondescript to me. I think I've been confusing Clive Owen with Colin Farrell -- is he the one with the eyebrows of doom? (Other than Peter Gallhager, I mean?)
What if instead of cuffing her, he'd smacked her in the face? Would that count as assault?
yes, as would cuffing her
But kissing her wouldn't have been considered assault? (Again, that's not meant to be snotty; I don't know what legally defines "assault." If someone kisses me and I don't want him to, is that assault?)
