I want to torture you. I used to love it, and it's been a long time. I mean, the last time I tortured someone, they didn't even have chainsaws.

Angel ,'Chosen'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Lilty Cash - Jun 08, 2005 5:17:37 pm PDT #8239 of 10001
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

DX, I actually shot a scene about that, cut for time. Also, I directed it kinda badly.

Did it come before or after Paul knew Web approved Rebecca despite (ok, because of) her history?

ETA: Got it.


Kevin - Jun 08, 2005 5:17:43 pm PDT #8240 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

The best characters, in my opinion, unfold as the shows progress.


Tim Minear - Jun 08, 2005 5:18:08 pm PDT #8241 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

that any better?


Amy - Jun 08, 2005 5:18:58 pm PDT #8242 of 10001
Because books.

Loved it! And for all the Silence of the Lambs and Se7en comparisons, I also got a House vibe off it, with Web as the kind of rogue commander who hand-picks his team. I love House, so yay.

Everyone was great -- I've always liked Peter Coyote, and the guy playing Paul was just right. A conscience without dripping it all over everyone, and a real willingness to step outside the norm and give the new kid a chance. I thought Rachel Nichols did a great job, too -- her tension was palpable. And that scene in the girl's bedroom when she flashes back -- yipes. Definitely a jump-off-the-couch moment.

Got the DH to watch with me, and he was really impressed -- he's always predicting what will happen no matter what we watch, and he was shocked that Web was setting Rebecca up at the end. So, go Tim!

Very very happy over here -- a new show to love, and during summer rerun season. And Tim! All over those credits. Great job, man.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 08, 2005 5:19:24 pm PDT #8243 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Love seeing Baldwin and Finnernan again. I like conscience guy an awful lot, and I'll learn to like Rebecca, I'm sure. Right now she's generic tall blonde ingenue.

My reaction was just the opposite. Rachael was the one unknown quantity to me (well, intellectually I knew she'd be really good since she wowed Tim, but I had no way to feel it until airtime) and came off quite well. And I really really like what both Coyote and Jay Herrington are doing. But AB rubbed me wrong in a way that wasn't entertaining, unlike all his other gruff or hostile characters that I've liked. And Katie—who I lovedlovedloved in Wonderfalls—was a cypher to me on first viewing. Overall I enjoyed the show a lot, but I'm surprised that I'm not yet feeling the two performers I was most sure of going in.


JenP - Jun 08, 2005 5:19:34 pm PDT #8244 of 10001

Ah, that's a nice scene. Too bad it had to go. (heh, fun with formatting)


Tim Minear - Jun 08, 2005 5:20:22 pm PDT #8245 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

Wow, thanks, AmyLiz.

(the above is what I get for trying to cut and paste from my script program right into the board)


Jon B. - Jun 08, 2005 5:20:59 pm PDT #8246 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Girl was a math major at some expensive uni.

Damn, I got myself married too soon.

I liked the way RN used her eyes, avoiding looking directly at others, Web especially.


DXMachina - Jun 08, 2005 5:21:14 pm PDT #8247 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Tim, that's pretty much what I was looking for, and almost exactly what I figured Web's reaction would be. Cool.


Polter-Cow - Jun 08, 2005 5:21:31 pm PDT #8248 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I also laughed out loud at, "You think I'm scary?"

Hee. Yeah. The one-liners came without warning, it was interesting. It's not like they were thrown at you as punchlines, laugh! They kind of take a beat to make you realize they were jokes, because the rest of the show is so down and dirty.

It'll be interesting to see what Mel and Danny's deals are.

I like how we got to know who they were completely through their dialogue and actions. Danny's kind of brusque and I don't know why the word impulsive is coming to mind, maybe just cause it sounds good with brusque. And Mel kind of feels like a foil, from the suicide discussion.

There were some bits of dialogue, though, that made me kind of go...what? I've come to expect better than this. Things that just sounded a little overwrought, that belied the quality of the show. One friend of mine caught the line "She has a gift...born in pain" in a trailer and wanted to write the show off. A lot of Rebecca's dialogue felt unnatural in places; it felt like pointing out the killer's psyche rather than her working through it herself. This could be a byproduct of the fact that she's just that good. It wasn't pervasive, but every time it popped up, I got worried.

But there are all these identity issues ahead, what with our past defining who we are and whatnot, so I'm looking forward to all that.