These are stone killers, little man. They ain't cuddly like me.

Jayne ,'The Train Job'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Amy - Jun 08, 2005 5:18:58 pm PDT #8242 of 10001
Because books.

Loved it! And for all the Silence of the Lambs and Se7en comparisons, I also got a House vibe off it, with Web as the kind of rogue commander who hand-picks his team. I love House, so yay.

Everyone was great -- I've always liked Peter Coyote, and the guy playing Paul was just right. A conscience without dripping it all over everyone, and a real willingness to step outside the norm and give the new kid a chance. I thought Rachel Nichols did a great job, too -- her tension was palpable. And that scene in the girl's bedroom when she flashes back -- yipes. Definitely a jump-off-the-couch moment.

Got the DH to watch with me, and he was really impressed -- he's always predicting what will happen no matter what we watch, and he was shocked that Web was setting Rebecca up at the end. So, go Tim!

Very very happy over here -- a new show to love, and during summer rerun season. And Tim! All over those credits. Great job, man.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 08, 2005 5:19:24 pm PDT #8243 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Love seeing Baldwin and Finnernan again. I like conscience guy an awful lot, and I'll learn to like Rebecca, I'm sure. Right now she's generic tall blonde ingenue.

My reaction was just the opposite. Rachael was the one unknown quantity to me (well, intellectually I knew she'd be really good since she wowed Tim, but I had no way to feel it until airtime) and came off quite well. And I really really like what both Coyote and Jay Herrington are doing. But AB rubbed me wrong in a way that wasn't entertaining, unlike all his other gruff or hostile characters that I've liked. And Katie—who I lovedlovedloved in Wonderfalls—was a cypher to me on first viewing. Overall I enjoyed the show a lot, but I'm surprised that I'm not yet feeling the two performers I was most sure of going in.


JenP - Jun 08, 2005 5:19:34 pm PDT #8244 of 10001

Ah, that's a nice scene. Too bad it had to go. (heh, fun with formatting)


Tim Minear - Jun 08, 2005 5:20:22 pm PDT #8245 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

Wow, thanks, AmyLiz.

(the above is what I get for trying to cut and paste from my script program right into the board)


Jon B. - Jun 08, 2005 5:20:59 pm PDT #8246 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Girl was a math major at some expensive uni.

Damn, I got myself married too soon.

I liked the way RN used her eyes, avoiding looking directly at others, Web especially.


DXMachina - Jun 08, 2005 5:21:14 pm PDT #8247 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Tim, that's pretty much what I was looking for, and almost exactly what I figured Web's reaction would be. Cool.


Polter-Cow - Jun 08, 2005 5:21:31 pm PDT #8248 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I also laughed out loud at, "You think I'm scary?"

Hee. Yeah. The one-liners came without warning, it was interesting. It's not like they were thrown at you as punchlines, laugh! They kind of take a beat to make you realize they were jokes, because the rest of the show is so down and dirty.

It'll be interesting to see what Mel and Danny's deals are.

I like how we got to know who they were completely through their dialogue and actions. Danny's kind of brusque and I don't know why the word impulsive is coming to mind, maybe just cause it sounds good with brusque. And Mel kind of feels like a foil, from the suicide discussion.

There were some bits of dialogue, though, that made me kind of go...what? I've come to expect better than this. Things that just sounded a little overwrought, that belied the quality of the show. One friend of mine caught the line "She has a gift...born in pain" in a trailer and wanted to write the show off. A lot of Rebecca's dialogue felt unnatural in places; it felt like pointing out the killer's psyche rather than her working through it herself. This could be a byproduct of the fact that she's just that good. It wasn't pervasive, but every time it popped up, I got worried.

But there are all these identity issues ahead, what with our past defining who we are and whatnot, so I'm looking forward to all that.


Strega - Jun 08, 2005 5:21:50 pm PDT #8249 of 10001

That was fun. I applauded for Allyson. Hee.

I'm really liking Paul

Per my usual gift, I think he needs to shut up. Though the actor reminds me of Adrian Pasdar in some shots.

Does anyone know if TWOP is recapping this?

We're not. Tim's been paroled.


Tim Minear - Jun 08, 2005 5:22:01 pm PDT #8250 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

Matt, don't blame Adam and Katie, for the first few eps I felt it was key to hammer home the central relationship of the show, which is a triangle. So Adam and Katie twist a little bit.


askye - Jun 08, 2005 5:22:49 pm PDT #8251 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

I feel kind of conflicted about this. I like it, or well, most of it. I don't like Web and not in the love to hate him but in the die die die get rid of him way.

Granted it's one episode, but that's my gut reaction.

I'll definitly watch again, but, I'm not 100% sold on it.

Also, I didn't like the "Got it backwards" line that much -- it's a great line -- but I have such a strong dislike for Web that my initial reaction was "omigod what an arrogant prick -- aren't there rules against that?"