You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with until you understand who's in ruttin' command here.

Jayne ,'The Train Job'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Allyson - Mar 07, 2005 11:22:07 am PST #5036 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

and that fandoms are primarily female for the shows in questions.

My question is, "why?"

I mean, I look at the signups for the LOST party, and it's almost completely female. Why? There are certainly oodles of men watching the show.

Are Buffistas primarily female?

FTR, I do believe there are differences between men in women besides goolies and socialization.


§ ita § - Mar 07, 2005 11:22:15 am PST #5037 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Save Enterprise is mostly men, and stands a chance of becoming the most noted (by dint of the whole 3 mil thing) save-our-show campaign.

The boys are doing okay for themselves, I think.

They came to mind because I think of Trek as a masculine fandom. If there's some history of masculine fandoms failing to rally, that would interest me.

Or is the male lack-of-cooperation posited to make fandoms female? Is that how far back the causality goes?


§ ita § - Mar 07, 2005 11:23:57 am PST #5038 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I do believe there are differences between men in women besides goolies and socialization

I think most instances of men in women boils down to goolies, with socialisation if they're lucky.

However, to not harp on the typo -- what's left when you take biology and sociology out of the picture?


Allyson - Mar 07, 2005 11:24:50 am PST #5039 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

As an aside, 3 mil in pledges is surely nice. I can pledge a llama and a case of Do Equiis, but really, doesn't mean I'll give it.


Betsy HP - Mar 07, 2005 11:24:56 am PST #5040 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

She didn't say "biology", she said "Goolies". There are sex-linked differences in other parts of the bodies than goolies.


§ ita § - Mar 07, 2005 11:25:41 am PST #5041 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

There are sex-linked differences in other parts of the bodies than goolies.

Sorry -- I assumed that she was using my blanket usage of goolies detailed upthread.

My bad.


Allyson - Mar 07, 2005 11:26:29 am PST #5042 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

what's left when you take biology and sociology out of the picture?

An autistic hermaphodite.


Topic!Cindy - Mar 07, 2005 11:27:17 am PST #5043 of 10001
What is even happening?

Or is the male lack-of-cooperation posited to make fandoms female? Is that how far back the causality goes?
That's what I was wondering about, when I mentioned I thought there are other differences between men and women than just their physical sex. Surely the internet isn't predominantly female, and I'm guessing that the earliest internet fandoms were probably mostly male. Does anyone know if that's true?

My experience is way skewed, because it is almost all Buffy & Joss related. I know those fandoms are heavily female where the internet is concerned. Buffy and internet fandom owe a lot to each other (in my opinion) though. Each sort of helped make a name for the other. I bothered to tune into Buffy, because the Bronze got buzz in local papers, a couple of times.


Betsy HP - Mar 07, 2005 11:27:58 am PST #5044 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

If I were really good at rhetoric, I would say "Ah, t X ", where X is the rhetorical term for the part used to represent the whole.

Unfortunately, I forget that word.


§ ita § - Mar 07, 2005 11:28:18 am PST #5045 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

As an aside, 3 mil in pledges is surely nice. I can pledge a llama and a case of Do Equiis, but really, doesn't mean I'll give it.

Okay, say the pledges don't come through. Remove that from the equation. I still see a bunch of guys doing a save our show campaign, and still have no idea from the people who say it's sex-linked why or where it's a sex-linked deal. Where is the evidence XY can't/won't do this? How are you defining your "this"?

That's what I'm asking.