There are sex-linked differences in other parts of the bodies than goolies.

Sorry -- I assumed that she was using my blanket usage of goolies detailed upthread.

My bad.

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what's left when you take biology and sociology out of the picture?

An autistic hermaphodite.

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Or is the male lack-of-cooperation posited to make fandoms female? Is that how far back the causality goes?

That's what I was wondering about, when I mentioned I thought there are other differences between men and women than just their physical sex. Surely the internet isn't predominantly female, and I'm guessing that the earliest internet fandoms were probably mostly male. Does anyone know if that's true?

My experience is way skewed, because it is almost all Buffy & Joss related. I know those fandoms are heavily female where the internet is concerned. Buffy and internet fandom owe a lot to each other (in my opinion) though. Each sort of helped make a name for the other. I bothered to tune into Buffy, because the Bronze got buzz in local papers, a couple of times.

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If I were really good at rhetoric, I would say "Ah, t X ", where X is the rhetorical term for the part used to represent the whole.

Unfortunately, I forget that word.

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As an aside, 3 mil in pledges is surely nice. I can pledge a llama and a case of Do Equiis, but really, doesn't mean I'll give it.

Okay, say the pledges don't come through. Remove that from the equation. I still see a bunch of guys doing a save our show campaign, and still have no idea from the people who say it's sex-linked why or where it's a sex-linked deal. Where is the evidence XY can't/won't do this? How are you defining your "this"?

That's what I'm asking.

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Where is the evidence XY can't/won't do this? How are you defining your "this"?

Was the claim ever that broad, though? I read it more as XY isn't the usual do-er of this.

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I read it more as XY isn't the usual do-er of this.

I roll that into "won't" without breaking my definition of the term.

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Well, and for that matter, there are proved tendencies among brains washed with female hormones that differ from brains washed with male hormones. (The brain + hormone effect being one of the strongest arguments against sex assignment surgery among the intersex.)

But those tendencies are effects all over the brain, and the quantitative difference in scores between the sexes is actually very small. Men tend to be better at rotating objects in their minds; women tend to be better at generating words in a 30-second span; but when you graph scores, you'll find way more overlap between the sexes than difference.

The socialization thing has always struck me as a boondoggle: of course women fight as much as men. They're trained to use slightly different weapons, but they definitely fight. Some of the sex-segregated teams on Survivor in years past have been hilarious in this regard.

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I'm guessing that the earliest internet fandoms were probably mostly male.

I'm not sure that's true. X-Files is generally acknowledged as the first fandom with a huge online presence, and although it's got more guys in it than most fandoms I'm familiar with, it's still pretty female-centric, and I think it was probably the same way in, say, 1996.

What else hit big online? Forever Knight, which has to be largely female.

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Rec.sf.star-trek predates the X-files by quite a bit.

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