Yeah, I kind of love how the shanshu has been a driving force for him all these years, and now he signs it away with barely a moment's pause, in order to keep fighting.

Loved it and cried like a little girl. Everything about this ending *fit* for me.

However - all this talk about Lorne reading people has me wondering: Since Lorne has read Angel, why would Lorne need to tell Angel not to look for him if Angel is supposedly going to die during the Big Battle? Does Lorne saying that mean that Angel survives?

OK, time to be in the minority. I'm incredibly disappointed in this ending. I despise the Butch and Sundance ending of them roaring off into hopeless battle. Dudes, it's not hopeless until you show me their dead and dusty bodies. I'm a big girl, I can deal with Angel getting dusted.

I don't buy Harmony's sudden betrayal. "But you don't have a soul." Um, so? I kept waiting for it to be a double-double cross, with Harmony misleading Hamilton. The whole "You're betraying me now!" bit just felt very artificial, as if they were putting on a show to lure Hamilton into something stupid.

Wes had an OK death. Not a good death. Once again, his grand gesture is wasted. I knew Illyria would morph to Fred--and it was still a lie.

Connor, for once, was very cool. I was very pleased to see him. "You drop by for coffe and the world's not ending? Please."

I was not expecting Lorne to shoot Lindsay. I think it was Angel's order and the final straw. Lorne's reading of Lindsay may have been the impetus to for Lorne to agree with it, but I don't think Lorne would commit murder as his own idea. Why else would Angel be so insisting on Lorne being there? For the high note of MacArthur Park? Though Lindsay's death is pleasantly nihilistic, if you like that sort of thing. Which I don't.

Spike at the poetry slam, finally getting some respect. That was nice, and completely took me by surprise.

They deserved better. Fuck you, WB. At least now I no longer have to watch your stupid commercials.

Wow I am simply amazed. That was a good episode. I was crying like a baby during Wes death. I am struck that this as a final episode was better (at least for me) then it was with Buffy's last year. Perhaps thats because its the FINAL.

I still feel sad though but it was a good end.

(I am bummed though Boston WB did not show the grr at the end not even a visual)

I despise the Butch and Sundance ending of them roaring off into hopeless battle. Dudes, it's not hopeless until you show me their dead and dusty bodies.

Exactly. In my world, Angel kills the dragon, and it falls and smashes all the demons and they win.

However - all this talk about Lorne reading people has me wondering: Since Lorne has read Angel, why would Lorne need to tell Angel not to look for him if Angel is supposedly going to die during the Big Battle? Does Lorne saying that mean that Angel survives?

I thought Lorne meant he wasn't going to be there for the last fight. He was done with Angel, period. was my thinking.

In my world, Angel kills the dragon, and it falls and smashes all the demons and they win.

Ah, that's the unsophisticated way of thinking, P-C.

A hero's death should be heroic. Numero Cinco taught us that. Sure, noble battle against impossible odds is heroic, no question of that. But, come on, a horde of demons. Where's the supreme, overwhelming power about that? It's not grand enough, even with a dragon.

edit: though I'm rather fond of being unsophisticated, by the way.

Gnuh.

No words.

Okay, just a handful: Amy Acker plays grief-as-immortal-rage very well.

Sleep now.

oy, I must go to bed, I must! Good night, wee Buffistas! We'll still be here tommorrow, right? Right?

But, come on, a horde of demons. Where's the supreme, overwhelming power about that? It's not grand enough, even with a dragon.

Did you see the gigantic, lumbering, shadowy figure behind the horde of demons, its head higher than the dragon's altitude?

In my mind, that's one of the Senior Partners.