But, come on, a horde of demons. Where's the supreme, overwhelming power about that? It's not grand enough, even with a dragon.

Did you see the gigantic, lumbering, shadowy figure behind the horde of demons, its head higher than the dragon's altitude?

In my mind, that's one of the Senior Partners.

They say, "Always leave them wanting more," and ME did a good job of that tonight. A nice episode, but for me not a great one. It felt more like a season finale than a series finale. Lots of small moments I liked, all of them listed already. A few nits to pick, but I think I'll leave them alone.

I didn't see Angel-bites-Hamilton coming, it was an excellent idea. I just wish that the bite and bloodsucking alone had been enough to do the job, so that we would have gotten to see Hamilton do an orgasm-face.

Well - much of this has already been said, but...

I liked the way each story ended.

I loved the poetry slam and how Spike's poem went full circle.

I hated Connor before, but I'm content with how he and Angel left it.

I'm sad Wes died, but he had nothing left to live for and I loved the symmetry.

Loved the HoYay.

I didn't like the group in the alley last 30 seconds, but I can live with it because I thought the ending of each individual line was so great.

I'm so sad it's over, but I'm happy with how it ended. I feel like the fact that I looved the finale makes it a bit more bearable that it's over. It ended well.

Oh, and that message from WB? Was crap.

When Hamilton started talking about blood I started thinking about Summers blood.

The episode really needed to be a two-parter.

The episode really needed to be a two-parter.

Working on it.

I have a short story that begins where we left off. hee.

Thank you, thank you, Joss.

I was thinking more that all the little individual storylines and fights could have been fleshed out more.

WRT the unended ending--Aurelia and I were both reminded of Thelma and Louise

Oh, yeah, before sleep, wanted to thank Joss, and Jeff Bell, and, you know, everyone else.

WRT the unended ending

what is the point of an unended ending? Are we supposed to think there's a possibility of survival? Is it to suggest that the ending is just too depressing/sad/whatever to be viewed, so they're "drawing a veil" over it?

With the rumors of movies etc. (no matter how nebulous) floating about, would those be prequels? I like closure.

Did you see the gigantic, lumbering, shadowy figure behind the horde of demons, its head higher than the dragon's altitude?

I saw something, but wasn't sure what. But even the Balrog can be beaten.

I come down in favor of Angel having told Lorne to kill Lindsey, because of the bitterness in the last Angel/Lorne exchanges and because of the way Angel told Eve Lindsey wasn't coming back.

Yes, this.

Angel had good reason to suspect Lindsey would flip sides;

Lindsey's only ever had one side: Lindsey. I have no doubt Angel's very well aware of this.

And at the same time, it's Angel sacrificing an ally, if not an innocent. Like Angel sacrificed Drogyn. Angel choosing the lesser evil for a greater goal. If his dearest friends are potential sacrifices on the altar of this victory, damn sure he's gonna throw Lindsey on the pyre, too.

And if nothing else, he's not doing all this, sacrificing (probably) himself and his friends, to hand Lindsey the keys to the castle.

Lorne's bitterness may be that he's not the guy who likes violence; that he can't stand seeing the good guys make bad choices; that people he cared for are dead, and he's left with nothing, not even who he thought he was.

Remember where he started, though. Lorne back in the day walked a certain line, choosing to stay more-or-less neutral in the fight. I can see his walking away now as a reaction against what Angel's made him agree to do (and remember, Lorne's known Lindsey as long or almost as long as Angel has - I don't buy that he suddenly saw something in his soul that shocked him all that much), but there's another aspect to it. Lorne's taking himself back out of the game. He doesn't have the stomach for it. He enjoyed being a good guy, at least once he didn't have somewhere else to be - a lot like Harmony, actually. But I think he was always more comfortable on the sidelines. So while he's willing to do "one last thing" for Angel, he's not willing to put himself on the line with the rest of them, not if he can help it.