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Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?  

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Hayden - May 21, 2004 10:40:07 am PDT #1268 of 3531
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I dunno, maybe I'm more naive about how things are done in TV land. But calling the WB "a bad network" and specifically talking smack about what's-his-name Levin seem to me to be more Paulie Walnuts than Sun Tzu. Please note that I'm not saying that the guy isn't entitled to his opinion. All I'm saying is that he makes good TV, and I'd hate to see him shut out in the future. Also, building on my analogy above, I really do hope that HBO gives him a show. If they waste money on dreck like Arli$$, surely they could put some cash into a Whedon show.

OK, I'm going to stop flogging this dead horse. I think we understand each other.

Polter-Cow - May 21, 2004 10:43:09 am PDT #1269 of 3531
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I think we understand each other.

I'm having "Checkpoint" flashbacks.

Hayden - May 21, 2004 10:45:49 am PDT #1270 of 3531
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Nah, I like y'all too much to fling the sword at anybody.

Topic!Cindy - May 21, 2004 10:47:41 am PDT #1271 of 3531
What is even happening?

I completely agree, Narrator. That's sort of where I was trying to go with my piece. They did their best, and sometimes their best wasn't only wrong, it was evil, but...Well, if Spike is love's bitch, Angel is fate's bitch. Has anyone here mentioned how often Liam/Angel has met his destiny in an alleyway?

Polter-Cow - May 21, 2004 10:47:44 am PDT #1272 of 3531
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Yeah, be careful. If I recall correctly, she threw it at the Indian guy.

-t - May 21, 2004 10:48:23 am PDT #1273 of 3531
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

But maybe more important is that by restoring Connor's memories he gave Angel back his son.

Okay, that light just went on my head. Nice full circle of the Wes-Angel-Connor relationship. And the second betrayal mitigates the effects of the first. Nifty.

Nutty - May 21, 2004 10:52:20 am PDT #1274 of 3531
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Spike is love's bitch, Angel is fate's bitch.

(lightbulb!) You know, this is why I just don't like Angel as a character. Be your own bitch, sure, fine, but don't be the bitch of The Writer Told Me To.

I think I could have liked the whole show better if it hadn't felt so arbitrarily fateful.

-t - May 21, 2004 10:52:43 am PDT #1275 of 3531
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

serial:

Well, if Spike is love's bitch, Angel is fate's bitch.

Amen, sister!

Has anyone here mentioned how often Liam/Angel has met his destiny in an alleyway?

I certainly thought it while watching, but I don't think I've said anything. Actual thought was something along the lines of "Ah, the alley. We always end up back in the alley sooner or later". Made me feel all warm and fuzzy.

§ ita § - May 21, 2004 10:54:10 am PDT #1276 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

it hadn't felt so arbitrarily fateful.

Do you buy into the prophecy idea in fiction in general?

Polter-Cow - May 21, 2004 10:54:57 am PDT #1277 of 3531
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Actual thought was something along the lines of "Ah, the alley. We always end up back in the alley sooner or later". Made me feel all warm and fuzzy.

I wonder if Liam was born in an alley.

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