it hadn't felt so arbitrarily fateful.
Do you buy into the prophecy idea in fiction in general?
You like ships. You don't seem to be looking at the destinations. What you care about is the ships, and mine's the nicest.
Kaylee ,'Serenity'
Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?
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§ ita § - May 21, 2004 10:54:10 am PDT #1276 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Polter-Cow - May 21, 2004 10:54:57 am PDT #1277 of 3531
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Actual thought was something along the lines of "Ah, the alley. We always end up back in the alley sooner or later". Made me feel all warm and fuzzy.
I wonder if Liam was born in an alley.
P.M. Marc - May 21, 2004 10:55:10 am PDT #1278 of 3531
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
I certainly thought it while watching, but I don't think I've said anything. Actual thought was something along the lines of "Ah, the alley. We always end up back in the alley sooner or later" and felt all warm and fuzzy.
The whole thing, as I told Micole elsewhere, was very visual to me. Wesley dying at Vail's (where his memories returned), everything ending in an alley, Connor in W&H as it falls around him... there is *more*, of course, which I'll have to rewatch and take notes for. Those ones, however, stand out.
Narrator - May 21, 2004 10:55:11 am PDT #1279 of 3531
The evil is this way?
Deleting double post.
Narrator - May 21, 2004 10:55:25 am PDT #1280 of 3531
The evil is this way?
Has anyone here mentioned how often Liam/Angel has met his destiny in an alleyway?
Especially a rainy one. At first I was wondering if the alley scene was because Hyperion set wasn't available anymore. Then I thought it was because of the rain. Faith's big emotional turning point was in a rain-soaked alley. Connor was born and Darla died in a rain-soaked alley. I bet if they had a chance to go back and reshoot the scene, it would have been raining in the alley in Ireland when Darla turned Angel.
Nutty - May 21, 2004 10:57:53 am PDT #1281 of 3531
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Do you buy into the prophecy idea in fiction in general?
No. Actually I hate it most times, as in, say, Megan Whalen Turner's The Thief of Attolia.
People, people, people. If you're gonna be in a dark alley, surely it's got to be raining. It always rains at night in drama-land, didn't you know?
Consuela - May 21, 2004 11:03:32 am PDT #1282 of 3531
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
I totally called the alley imagery in my first post afterwords.
I suppose there's room for a discussion of what alleys are, what they mean, why it's important that the show end in an alley, outside the civilized spaces. But yeah: Angel's vamping, Darla's death, Faith's moment of despair, the business in Orpheus, the first meeting with Buffy, the rise of the BRS: all in alleys.
(Nitpick for Nutty: It's Queen of Attolia. The Thief, which I liked rather more, was the first one.)
DCJensen - May 21, 2004 11:03:49 am PDT #1283 of 3531
All is well that ends in pizza.
I think Spike hasn't been Love's bitch as much since he had his psychological Oedipal issues finally ironed out after getting the soul and in the fight with Wood.
I still smile at the fittingness of Spike fighting and winning a battle against a character called Wood.
§ ita § - May 21, 2004 11:05:12 am PDT #1284 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
suppose there's room for a discussion of what alleys are, what they mean,
Dude. Total birth canal.
Of course, I may just be randomly making stuff up.
Topic!Cindy - May 21, 2004 11:05:14 am PDT #1285 of 3531
What is even happening?
Especially a rainy one. At first I was wondering if the alley scene was because Hyperion set wasn't available anymore. Then I thought it was because of the rain. Faith's big emotional turning point was in a rain-soaked alley. Connor was born and Darla died in a rain-soaked alley. I bet if they had a chance to go back and reshoot the scene, it would have been raining in the alley in Ireland when Darla turned Angel.
And what about when Whistler found him in the alley?